1 00:02:53,270 --> 00:01:31,930 [Music] 2 00:02:58,229 --> 00:02:53,910 greetings 3 00:03:02,070 --> 00:02:58,239 and salutations friends and welcome back 4 00:03:05,750 --> 00:03:02,080 i have taken a few days off which was 5 00:03:08,869 --> 00:03:05,760 good and well received uh 6 00:03:12,070 --> 00:03:08,879 we are broadcasting a bit earlier than 7 00:03:13,190 --> 00:03:12,080 i usually do and that is simply because 8 00:03:17,270 --> 00:03:13,200 i have too much 9 00:03:19,350 --> 00:03:17,280 other thing things to complete tonight 10 00:03:20,470 --> 00:03:19,360 i still wanted to make sure however to 11 00:03:23,509 --> 00:03:20,480 come here and 12 00:03:23,990 --> 00:03:23,519 water this garden for surely a garden 13 00:03:27,190 --> 00:03:24,000 that is 14 00:03:29,270 --> 00:03:27,200 watered enough i 15 00:03:31,990 --> 00:03:29,280 thought that tonight we could take sort 16 00:03:36,309 --> 00:03:32,000 of a 17 00:03:40,949 --> 00:03:39,750 different approach to what i normally 18 00:03:43,990 --> 00:03:40,959 cover 19 00:03:45,990 --> 00:03:44,000 it occurred to me that 20 00:03:48,630 --> 00:03:46,000 there are an incredible amount of 21 00:03:51,670 --> 00:03:48,640 supernatural and paranormal claims 22 00:03:52,470 --> 00:03:51,680 in the so-called new age or spirituality 23 00:03:59,509 --> 00:03:52,480 community 24 00:04:02,949 --> 00:03:59,519 there is 25 00:04:06,630 --> 00:04:02,959 a great deal of claims 26 00:04:09,670 --> 00:04:06,640 of supernatural things in the 27 00:04:10,149 --> 00:04:09,680 in that community equally i suppose in 28 00:04:13,589 --> 00:04:10,159 the 29 00:04:15,750 --> 00:04:13,599 communities that are interested in 30 00:04:17,670 --> 00:04:15,760 centered around things like ceremonial 31 00:04:21,830 --> 00:04:17,680 magic there are 32 00:04:24,310 --> 00:04:21,840 paranormal and supernatural claims 33 00:04:25,990 --> 00:04:24,320 but i think the more that i thought 34 00:04:29,030 --> 00:04:26,000 about it 35 00:04:31,670 --> 00:04:29,040 some people in the world just get a pass 36 00:04:32,469 --> 00:04:31,680 making supernatural claims and that 37 00:04:36,790 --> 00:04:32,479 would be 38 00:04:40,550 --> 00:04:38,150 there's an incredible amount of 39 00:04:42,710 --> 00:04:40,560 paranormal claims obviously 40 00:04:44,469 --> 00:04:42,720 people who talk to god people who are 41 00:04:47,990 --> 00:04:44,479 sent by god 42 00:04:52,950 --> 00:04:48,000 saints angels demons 43 00:04:59,590 --> 00:04:55,990 part of my state of the 44 00:05:02,310 --> 00:04:59,600 psychic community and the new age 45 00:05:03,110 --> 00:05:02,320 community has always it appeared to me 46 00:05:06,790 --> 00:05:03,120 involved 47 00:05:11,909 --> 00:05:06,800 con men and grifters fakers 48 00:05:14,710 --> 00:05:11,919 fraudsters people who claim 49 00:05:15,189 --> 00:05:14,720 supernatural and paranormal things but 50 00:05:17,430 --> 00:05:15,199 don't 51 00:05:19,990 --> 00:05:17,440 deliver the proof and then take money 52 00:05:21,909 --> 00:05:20,000 from people 53 00:05:23,990 --> 00:05:21,919 that sort of thing has always bothered 54 00:05:27,590 --> 00:05:24,000 me but the more i think about 55 00:05:29,110 --> 00:05:27,600 it lately i realize that churches are 56 00:05:32,629 --> 00:05:29,120 guilty of the same 57 00:05:36,550 --> 00:05:32,639 thing after all they make 58 00:05:39,590 --> 00:05:36,560 incredible claims one of the claims 59 00:05:40,550 --> 00:05:39,600 made by uh the catholic church that i've 60 00:05:43,629 --> 00:05:40,560 always found 61 00:05:45,670 --> 00:05:43,639 fascinating is this claim of 62 00:05:48,870 --> 00:05:45,680 incorruptibility 63 00:05:52,469 --> 00:05:48,880 for those not aware i grew up catholic 64 00:05:55,749 --> 00:05:52,479 and had uh over a decade 65 00:05:58,230 --> 00:05:55,759 of catholic school where we are 66 00:05:59,110 --> 00:05:58,240 sort of brainwashed into the bible and 67 00:06:03,830 --> 00:05:59,120 the 68 00:06:06,390 --> 00:06:03,840 catholic faith and catholic doctrine 69 00:06:07,830 --> 00:06:06,400 and incorruptibility is just one of 70 00:06:08,870 --> 00:06:07,840 those things that you're supposed to 71 00:06:10,790 --> 00:06:08,880 believe 72 00:06:12,629 --> 00:06:10,800 uh without question you must just have 73 00:06:15,830 --> 00:06:12,639 faith and believe it 74 00:06:19,029 --> 00:06:15,840 for those who don't know this is 75 00:06:21,590 --> 00:06:19,039 a claim of the catholic faith that 76 00:06:23,270 --> 00:06:21,600 saints bodies are what's called 77 00:06:28,230 --> 00:06:23,280 incorruptible 78 00:06:32,390 --> 00:06:28,240 which the definition of which 79 00:06:36,150 --> 00:06:32,400 and you ask to some to most 80 00:06:41,830 --> 00:06:39,749 the body is as fresh 100 years from the 81 00:06:45,510 --> 00:06:41,840 date of death 82 00:06:47,909 --> 00:06:45,520 is justice as day it died 83 00:06:48,870 --> 00:06:47,919 there are various claims like these 84 00:06:52,870 --> 00:06:48,880 bodies emit 85 00:06:55,830 --> 00:06:52,880 a supernatural sweet smell 86 00:06:59,029 --> 00:06:55,840 that sometimes they bleed sometimes they 87 00:07:05,749 --> 00:07:03,270 as a young catholic boy an altar boy 88 00:07:07,029 --> 00:07:05,759 and i was on the fast track to becoming 89 00:07:08,790 --> 00:07:07,039 a catholic priest 90 00:07:10,070 --> 00:07:08,800 at one point in my life believe it or 91 00:07:12,870 --> 00:07:10,080 not i 92 00:07:14,830 --> 00:07:12,880 even spent some time at st charles 93 00:07:17,589 --> 00:07:14,840 baramo 94 00:07:18,070 --> 00:07:17,599 seminary i was incredibly interested in 95 00:07:21,670 --> 00:07:18,080 the 96 00:07:24,150 --> 00:07:21,680 catholic supernatural stuff 97 00:07:26,710 --> 00:07:24,160 and upon hearing about this concept 98 00:07:31,510 --> 00:07:26,720 called incorruptibility 99 00:07:35,749 --> 00:07:31,520 i had to investigate i believe i was in 100 00:07:39,830 --> 00:07:37,670 when i heard about this incorruptibility 101 00:07:42,150 --> 00:07:39,840 thing it was part of a religion class 102 00:07:43,589 --> 00:07:42,160 talking about saints and we were told 103 00:07:46,710 --> 00:07:43,599 that the saints 104 00:07:49,830 --> 00:07:46,720 bodies do not rob i was 105 00:07:52,150 --> 00:07:49,840 interested how can this be how can it 106 00:07:55,270 --> 00:07:52,160 not rot 107 00:07:58,230 --> 00:07:55,280 as a catholic student you are then given 108 00:07:59,909 --> 00:07:58,240 a hundred stories about different 109 00:08:02,070 --> 00:07:59,919 incorruptible saints 110 00:08:03,510 --> 00:08:02,080 saints that they dug up a hundred years 111 00:08:06,150 --> 00:08:03,520 after they were dead 112 00:08:08,390 --> 00:08:06,160 and the body was just fresh the day was 113 00:08:11,270 --> 00:08:08,400 dug up as the day was buried 114 00:08:12,629 --> 00:08:11,280 it hadn't rotted it had not been 115 00:08:17,029 --> 00:08:12,639 corrupted 116 00:08:20,390 --> 00:08:17,039 and this is the concept incredibility 117 00:08:21,510 --> 00:08:20,400 so as a child and a very interested 118 00:08:23,510 --> 00:08:21,520 party 119 00:08:25,749 --> 00:08:23,520 i decided i had to see one of these 120 00:08:28,710 --> 00:08:25,759 bodies for myself 121 00:08:29,670 --> 00:08:28,720 and this this is where the story gets 122 00:08:31,589 --> 00:08:29,680 interesting 123 00:08:33,190 --> 00:08:31,599 i happen to grow up in philadelphia 124 00:08:36,230 --> 00:08:33,200 pennsylvania 125 00:08:38,550 --> 00:08:36,240 and was shocked and amazed 126 00:08:40,149 --> 00:08:38,560 when i asked the priest where the near 127 00:08:42,790 --> 00:08:40,159 single body was 128 00:08:45,110 --> 00:08:42,800 at my church he told me that it was at 129 00:08:49,269 --> 00:08:45,120 st john newman's 130 00:08:51,269 --> 00:08:49,279 in center city i lived just a few miles 131 00:08:52,790 --> 00:08:51,279 from center city the church where i was 132 00:08:53,949 --> 00:08:52,800 taking these religion 133 00:08:57,750 --> 00:08:53,959 classes telling me about 134 00:09:00,470 --> 00:08:57,760 incorruptibility uh just a few miles 135 00:09:02,790 --> 00:09:00,480 right from where this incorruptible body 136 00:09:05,829 --> 00:09:02,800 was 137 00:09:09,829 --> 00:09:08,710 i took elevated train down center city 138 00:09:12,470 --> 00:09:09,839 as a boy 139 00:09:13,430 --> 00:09:12,480 by myself and tell everybody i was gonna 140 00:09:16,949 --> 00:09:13,440 go do this 141 00:09:20,829 --> 00:09:16,959 i was afraid my parents wouldn't let me 142 00:09:24,710 --> 00:09:20,839 so i go downtown i find this huge 143 00:09:27,269 --> 00:09:24,720 cathedral huge cathedral 144 00:09:28,470 --> 00:09:27,279 where the body of saint john newman is 145 00:09:31,670 --> 00:09:28,480 supposed to be laying 146 00:09:35,110 --> 00:09:31,680 in glass case inside the altar of 147 00:09:37,030 --> 00:09:35,120 this cathedral this church 148 00:09:38,630 --> 00:09:37,040 folks i was so excited walked up those 149 00:09:41,670 --> 00:09:38,640 big steps a little boy that i 150 00:09:44,949 --> 00:09:41,680 was couldn't wait to see this body 151 00:09:49,990 --> 00:09:44,959 this incorruptible 152 00:09:53,670 --> 00:09:50,000 st john newman couldn't believe it 153 00:09:56,070 --> 00:09:53,680 so i entered the church the cathedral 154 00:09:58,230 --> 00:09:56,080 and seriously there was almost no one 155 00:09:59,590 --> 00:09:58,240 there there was a few people praying in 156 00:10:03,190 --> 00:09:59,600 the back rows 157 00:10:06,389 --> 00:10:03,200 of the pews and there's a huge you know 158 00:10:09,190 --> 00:10:06,399 uh wide path 159 00:10:10,550 --> 00:10:09,200 up to the altar and in the distance i 160 00:10:13,829 --> 00:10:10,560 could see 161 00:10:15,590 --> 00:10:13,839 somebody laughing inside that altar 162 00:10:17,990 --> 00:10:15,600 or what i thought was somebody laying 163 00:10:20,870 --> 00:10:18,000 inside the altar i should say 164 00:10:22,790 --> 00:10:20,880 then i realized of course that there's 165 00:10:24,790 --> 00:10:22,800 really is a body in there that priest 166 00:10:28,310 --> 00:10:24,800 was blind to me there's a body 167 00:10:29,829 --> 00:10:28,320 inside that altar this cathedral is huge 168 00:10:30,310 --> 00:10:29,839 i can't tell you maybe it's a hundred 169 00:10:37,430 --> 00:10:30,320 feet 170 00:10:39,030 --> 00:10:37,440 back of the church where i witnessed 171 00:10:43,750 --> 00:10:39,040 this body 172 00:10:47,350 --> 00:10:43,760 i began to slowly walk up that huge path 173 00:10:51,190 --> 00:10:47,360 and the body came closer and closer 174 00:10:56,710 --> 00:10:54,710 then to a verb 175 00:10:59,509 --> 00:10:56,720 of the church right and there would be a 176 00:11:02,310 --> 00:10:59,519 step up to the altar 177 00:11:03,110 --> 00:11:02,320 and you're not supposed to go you're 178 00:11:06,069 --> 00:11:03,120 supposed to 179 00:11:06,710 --> 00:11:06,079 step up and walk around the altar but i 180 00:11:08,949 --> 00:11:06,720 could tell 181 00:11:11,110 --> 00:11:08,959 i look back and i just saw a few people 182 00:11:13,750 --> 00:11:11,120 praying in the back look around 183 00:11:15,110 --> 00:11:13,760 the doors for every church where the 184 00:11:16,949 --> 00:11:15,120 priests come and now they're on the 185 00:11:19,110 --> 00:11:16,959 sides of the altar 186 00:11:20,870 --> 00:11:19,120 that's both we're good is there any 187 00:11:22,870 --> 00:11:20,880 priests around here 188 00:11:24,790 --> 00:11:22,880 not seeing any please anyway that would 189 00:11:27,990 --> 00:11:24,800 stop me i stepped right up on 190 00:11:31,269 --> 00:11:28,000 that you know place where the altar 191 00:11:34,069 --> 00:11:31,279 was got my faith right up again 192 00:11:35,750 --> 00:11:34,079 this john newman's face and had the 193 00:11:39,269 --> 00:11:35,760 shock of my life 194 00:11:40,829 --> 00:11:39,279 it looked complete totally like carved 195 00:11:43,750 --> 00:11:40,839 fake 196 00:11:46,470 --> 00:11:43,760 face there's no 197 00:11:47,350 --> 00:11:46,480 kill in the fake it was totally smooth 198 00:11:50,389 --> 00:11:47,360 when it had been 199 00:11:53,829 --> 00:11:50,399 melted into place 200 00:11:57,030 --> 00:11:53,839 it wasn't real at least 201 00:11:58,949 --> 00:11:57,040 i thought this can't be real that's not 202 00:12:01,910 --> 00:11:58,959 a real human face 203 00:12:02,470 --> 00:12:01,920 which can't be real and just then i 204 00:12:05,750 --> 00:12:02,480 heard a 205 00:12:10,069 --> 00:12:05,760 thundering voice it was a priest 206 00:12:13,509 --> 00:12:10,079 say excuse me and you can't be there 207 00:12:18,949 --> 00:12:13,519 he was down at the church 208 00:12:23,509 --> 00:12:21,509 great coffee standing right there and to 209 00:12:25,750 --> 00:12:23,519 come down from there 210 00:12:26,710 --> 00:12:25,760 i was scared to death because uh you 211 00:12:29,910 --> 00:12:26,720 know 212 00:12:31,670 --> 00:12:29,920 priests authority figures 213 00:12:33,110 --> 00:12:31,680 and now i'm in trouble i knew i wasn't 214 00:12:35,269 --> 00:12:33,120 supposed to be up there 215 00:12:36,870 --> 00:12:35,279 so i walked over the priests i'm sorry 216 00:12:38,790 --> 00:12:36,880 father i'm sorry i just learned about 217 00:12:39,670 --> 00:12:38,800 incorruptibility and i really had to see 218 00:12:41,430 --> 00:12:39,680 this for myself 219 00:12:42,949 --> 00:12:41,440 i had to see it right up close father i 220 00:12:46,069 --> 00:12:42,959 had to see it i had to see it 221 00:12:46,470 --> 00:12:46,079 in the pre i understand what did you 222 00:12:49,910 --> 00:12:46,480 think 223 00:12:51,030 --> 00:12:49,920 and i said it looks fake that's not real 224 00:12:52,710 --> 00:12:51,040 is it 225 00:12:56,069 --> 00:12:52,720 the priest took me aside and told me to 226 00:12:59,509 --> 00:12:56,079 sit in a pew and we sat there in a pew 227 00:13:00,069 --> 00:12:59,519 for a good 20 and 30 minutes and he told 228 00:13:04,069 --> 00:13:00,079 me 229 00:13:04,870 --> 00:13:04,079 about how the body of saint john newman 230 00:13:07,350 --> 00:13:04,880 was dug up 231 00:13:08,150 --> 00:13:07,360 long after it had been dead for a few 232 00:13:10,949 --> 00:13:08,160 decades 233 00:13:13,509 --> 00:13:10,959 and was in really good condition for a 234 00:13:16,389 --> 00:13:13,519 body that had been dead that long 235 00:13:18,389 --> 00:13:16,399 but it wasn't exactly fresh as the day 236 00:13:21,990 --> 00:13:18,399 was buried 237 00:13:25,110 --> 00:13:22,000 parts of the skin had rotted right 238 00:13:25,910 --> 00:13:25,120 making faith incomplete other parts of 239 00:13:29,590 --> 00:13:25,920 the body 240 00:13:32,829 --> 00:13:29,600 had rotted away or were missing entirely 241 00:13:36,629 --> 00:13:32,839 through the test of time or normal human 242 00:13:42,790 --> 00:13:39,829 and so he won't tell my 243 00:13:43,350 --> 00:13:42,800 but they still put the body in that 244 00:13:46,949 --> 00:13:43,360 altar 245 00:13:50,389 --> 00:13:46,959 in this cathedral and then 246 00:13:54,470 --> 00:13:50,399 an artist created a wax mask 247 00:13:55,189 --> 00:13:54,480 of sorts to detect the face of saint 248 00:13:59,910 --> 00:13:55,199 john newman 249 00:14:03,750 --> 00:13:59,920 and the fake wax face is placed over 250 00:14:06,870 --> 00:14:03,760 the skull an actual real body 251 00:14:10,069 --> 00:14:06,880 i suppose is underneath 252 00:14:11,430 --> 00:14:10,079 he said no one will see uh 253 00:14:13,509 --> 00:14:11,440 saint john newman's face in the 254 00:14:16,230 --> 00:14:13,519 condition that it really looks 255 00:14:19,189 --> 00:14:16,240 i said i would and asked him if he could 256 00:14:21,509 --> 00:14:19,199 take the mask off and let me see 257 00:14:22,870 --> 00:14:21,519 he wouldn't let that happen he told me 258 00:14:25,269 --> 00:14:22,880 that people weren't 259 00:14:27,110 --> 00:14:25,279 to see the face the real face of saint 260 00:14:30,870 --> 00:14:27,120 john newman 261 00:14:32,790 --> 00:14:30,880 this my friends has always stuck with me 262 00:14:34,230 --> 00:14:32,800 why would the catholic church knowingly 263 00:14:37,430 --> 00:14:34,240 and willingly kind of 264 00:14:38,710 --> 00:14:37,440 fudge things say this body is 265 00:14:41,829 --> 00:14:38,720 incorruptible 266 00:14:44,550 --> 00:14:41,839 when it's really not why would they 267 00:14:46,790 --> 00:14:44,560 purposefully attempt to deceive people 268 00:14:49,990 --> 00:14:46,800 by making a very pleasant 269 00:14:53,110 --> 00:14:50,000 mask wax mask or face 270 00:14:54,230 --> 00:14:53,120 to put around a rotting body that you're 271 00:14:58,710 --> 00:14:54,240 claiming 272 00:15:01,350 --> 00:14:58,720 doesn't rot seems strange today 273 00:15:01,750 --> 00:15:01,360 i thanked the priest for his time sort 274 00:15:05,189 --> 00:15:01,760 of 275 00:15:06,949 --> 00:15:05,199 checking as i opened to leave 276 00:15:10,310 --> 00:15:06,959 to see if he was going to say i was in 277 00:15:11,670 --> 00:15:10,320 any trouble or say a rosary or something 278 00:15:13,829 --> 00:15:11,680 they always love to make you say the 279 00:15:14,629 --> 00:15:13,839 rotary is a punishment i liked saying 280 00:15:18,069 --> 00:15:14,639 the rosary 281 00:15:22,310 --> 00:15:18,079 so for me wasn't a big deal anyway 282 00:15:24,389 --> 00:15:22,320 i sort of uh 283 00:15:26,069 --> 00:15:24,399 remember thinking like am i gonna get 284 00:15:28,629 --> 00:15:26,079 away here without any 285 00:15:29,829 --> 00:15:28,639 rosaries or punishment or is he gonna 286 00:15:33,110 --> 00:15:29,839 you know am i in trouble 287 00:15:35,509 --> 00:15:33,120 he kind of said you know 288 00:15:36,550 --> 00:15:35,519 be safe at home be careful or something 289 00:15:39,670 --> 00:15:36,560 like that 290 00:15:44,949 --> 00:15:42,949 later i think it was very next day 291 00:15:46,790 --> 00:15:44,959 i gotta hold the cap priest that taught 292 00:15:47,829 --> 00:15:46,800 me about incorruptibility and i said 293 00:15:50,629 --> 00:15:47,839 excuse me 294 00:15:52,710 --> 00:15:50,639 that's not real at least not st john 295 00:15:56,150 --> 00:15:52,720 newman's case 296 00:15:58,389 --> 00:15:56,160 i got punished uh i was to never 297 00:15:59,509 --> 00:15:58,399 speak that again don't ever talk about 298 00:16:01,670 --> 00:15:59,519 that again 299 00:16:03,269 --> 00:16:01,680 how dare you question the catholic 300 00:16:05,910 --> 00:16:03,279 doctrine 301 00:16:06,550 --> 00:16:05,920 you have no right to do that you have to 302 00:16:10,230 --> 00:16:06,560 have faith 303 00:16:13,269 --> 00:16:10,240 and just believe you do not question 304 00:16:15,670 --> 00:16:13,279 this catholic doctrine but even then 305 00:16:17,509 --> 00:16:15,680 of course i questioned the catholic 306 00:16:21,030 --> 00:16:17,519 doctrine 307 00:16:26,069 --> 00:16:21,040 seemed strange to me that they could 308 00:16:29,509 --> 00:16:26,079 so willingly just lie about 309 00:16:32,870 --> 00:16:29,519 the state of many of these bodies 310 00:16:35,590 --> 00:16:32,880 now later i would learn that 311 00:16:36,550 --> 00:16:35,600 there appear that there are some bodies 312 00:16:40,310 --> 00:16:36,560 that have 313 00:16:44,389 --> 00:16:40,320 zero rotting zero decomposition 314 00:16:47,990 --> 00:16:44,399 zero decay at least they appear that 315 00:16:51,590 --> 00:16:48,000 way and in some cases they do not 316 00:16:54,870 --> 00:16:51,600 say anything about a wax mask 317 00:16:57,749 --> 00:16:54,880 or help to show this 318 00:16:58,470 --> 00:16:57,759 the face i found several other examples 319 00:17:01,670 --> 00:16:58,480 where yes 320 00:17:05,350 --> 00:17:01,680 they will admit they're using a wax face 321 00:17:05,909 --> 00:17:05,360 or mask over the decomposing face or the 322 00:17:08,949 --> 00:17:05,919 face 323 00:17:11,429 --> 00:17:08,959 or the skull and in an entirely 324 00:17:13,750 --> 00:17:11,439 other case i found where they have an 325 00:17:16,470 --> 00:17:13,760 entire body that looks like perfect and 326 00:17:20,069 --> 00:17:16,480 beautiful and pristine 327 00:17:23,669 --> 00:17:20,079 right but then under it in another case 328 00:17:24,069 --> 00:17:23,679 is just a skeleton i don't understand 329 00:17:27,590 --> 00:17:24,079 these 330 00:17:28,230 --> 00:17:27,600 claims i don't understand i just don't 331 00:17:29,909 --> 00:17:28,240 get it 332 00:17:31,270 --> 00:17:29,919 i don't get how they could make these 333 00:17:34,310 --> 00:17:31,280 claims 334 00:17:40,710 --> 00:17:34,320 and then just be purposefully you know 335 00:17:45,990 --> 00:17:45,110 so my friends i continue to look into it 336 00:17:50,070 --> 00:17:46,000 despite the fact 337 00:17:52,150 --> 00:17:50,080 that i was literally punished for uh 338 00:17:54,310 --> 00:17:52,160 speaking the truth that saint john 339 00:17:55,110 --> 00:17:54,320 newman's body was not perfectly 340 00:17:59,110 --> 00:17:55,120 preserved 341 00:18:03,029 --> 00:18:00,950 and that my friends taught me something 342 00:18:06,390 --> 00:18:03,039 about catholic doctrine 343 00:18:07,990 --> 00:18:06,400 just believe don't question 344 00:18:09,830 --> 00:18:08,000 but anyway friends i thought i would 345 00:18:10,870 --> 00:18:09,840 share the screen and just show you some 346 00:18:13,510 --> 00:18:10,880 of the most famous 347 00:18:15,110 --> 00:18:13,520 examples of this of these incorruptible 348 00:18:18,310 --> 00:18:15,120 bodies 349 00:18:22,150 --> 00:18:18,320 there may be some that are actually 350 00:18:24,070 --> 00:18:22,160 not rotting not decomposing etc however 351 00:18:25,270 --> 00:18:24,080 i don't believe that the catholic church 352 00:18:28,390 --> 00:18:25,280 allows 353 00:18:31,190 --> 00:18:28,400 any scientist or medical person to 354 00:18:32,789 --> 00:18:31,200 examine these bodies so 355 00:18:34,390 --> 00:18:32,799 i guess we're just gonna have to have 356 00:18:37,830 --> 00:18:34,400 faith that these are real 357 00:18:41,110 --> 00:18:37,840 and not wax fakes or wax masks or 358 00:18:44,710 --> 00:18:41,120 wax face coverings on top of 359 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:54,830 and uh let's let's see if i can find 360 00:18:54,840 --> 00:19:02,380 this 361 00:19:10,140 --> 00:19:07,350 [Music] 362 00:19:19,750 --> 00:19:10,150 uh one second 363 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:27,370 this music reminds me of church 364 00:19:31,990 --> 00:19:30,310 [Music] 365 00:19:34,310 --> 00:19:32,000 i have a problem with that science is 366 00:19:35,669 --> 00:19:34,320 yet unable to explain them 367 00:20:47,350 --> 00:19:35,679 i have a real problem with that it's 368 00:20:50,630 --> 00:20:49,110 look like does that look like a real 369 00:20:53,909 --> 00:20:50,640 face or does that look like 370 00:20:55,669 --> 00:20:53,919 a sculpture or something this one does 371 00:21:04,640 --> 00:20:55,679 not look real at all to me 372 00:21:04,650 --> 00:21:09,909 [Music] 373 00:21:16,310 --> 00:21:13,590 this one 1970 17 friends 374 00:21:17,190 --> 00:21:16,320 there is there is so many of these 375 00:21:19,110 --> 00:21:17,200 there's like 376 00:21:21,029 --> 00:21:19,120 hundreds and hundreds of them and it's 377 00:21:21,669 --> 00:21:21,039 it's kind of crazy and interesting that 378 00:21:24,230 --> 00:21:21,679 they 379 00:21:25,750 --> 00:21:24,240 generally are put as alters inside 380 00:21:27,909 --> 00:21:25,760 churches different churches and 381 00:21:29,350 --> 00:21:27,919 cathedrals and become a pilgrimage point 382 00:21:32,390 --> 00:21:29,360 people want to visit 383 00:21:46,549 --> 00:21:32,400 that saint and see the incorruptible 384 00:21:49,590 --> 00:21:47,990 and this is another one it looks like a 385 00:21:50,190 --> 00:21:49,600 wax fake to me this is supposed to be 386 00:21:54,549 --> 00:21:50,200 from 387 00:21:58,630 --> 00:21:56,070 i mean it almost looks like a puppet to 388 00:22:06,390 --> 00:21:58,640 me this one 389 00:22:16,870 --> 00:22:08,149 this one a little more realistic looks a 390 00:22:21,110 --> 00:22:18,549 yeah this one looks a little more 391 00:22:21,350 --> 00:22:21,120 authentic like like the skin dried and 392 00:22:26,070 --> 00:22:21,360 it 393 00:22:27,990 --> 00:22:26,080 mummified somehow 394 00:22:29,430 --> 00:22:28,000 and this is another one that looks to me 395 00:22:40,789 --> 00:22:29,440 like wax or 396 00:22:43,270 --> 00:22:40,799 like some sort of fake 397 00:22:44,470 --> 00:22:43,280 okay we're gonna we're gonna stop it 398 00:22:47,350 --> 00:22:44,480 there so 399 00:22:48,549 --> 00:22:47,360 there is an incredible amount of these 400 00:22:51,669 --> 00:22:48,559 saints 401 00:22:54,070 --> 00:22:51,679 uh that are incorruptible 402 00:22:55,190 --> 00:22:54,080 i don't know what do you guys think are 403 00:22:57,430 --> 00:22:55,200 they really 404 00:22:58,390 --> 00:22:57,440 bodies that just aren't rotting are some 405 00:23:01,350 --> 00:22:58,400 of them real 406 00:23:02,870 --> 00:23:01,360 and others we have there is ample and 407 00:23:06,149 --> 00:23:02,880 supportive evidence that some of them 408 00:23:09,510 --> 00:23:09,110 so i i i don't understand and then and 409 00:23:17,110 --> 00:23:09,520 the 410 00:23:20,549 --> 00:23:17,120 explanations given it is 411 00:23:22,470 --> 00:23:20,559 just one of those crazy stories saints 412 00:23:25,029 --> 00:23:22,480 that are incorruptable saints whose 413 00:23:27,430 --> 00:23:25,039 bodies do not rot and by the way 414 00:23:29,350 --> 00:23:27,440 one of the criteria for whether or not a 415 00:23:32,390 --> 00:23:29,360 person can become a saint or not 416 00:23:33,830 --> 00:23:32,400 is incorruptibility they have to see or 417 00:23:37,430 --> 00:23:33,840 find that their bodies 418 00:23:41,909 --> 00:23:37,440 are in this supposed glorious 419 00:23:46,310 --> 00:23:43,750 as for me friends having grown up 420 00:23:47,269 --> 00:23:46,320 catholic and thoroughly researched a lot 421 00:23:50,950 --> 00:23:47,279 of these 422 00:23:54,149 --> 00:23:50,960 individually more often than not i found 423 00:23:57,430 --> 00:23:54,159 that the the caretakers 424 00:24:01,190 --> 00:23:57,440 of the incorruptable bodies 425 00:24:05,830 --> 00:24:04,149 have helped the appearance of the body 426 00:24:09,029 --> 00:24:05,840 by masks 427 00:24:11,909 --> 00:24:09,039 wax masks uh other 428 00:24:13,750 --> 00:24:11,919 you know fake hands instead of showing 429 00:24:16,950 --> 00:24:13,760 the real hands which are rotted 430 00:24:18,390 --> 00:24:16,960 and you know in a normal state of human 431 00:24:20,070 --> 00:24:18,400 decay 432 00:24:23,110 --> 00:24:20,080 and there are several of these that are 433 00:24:26,230 --> 00:24:23,120 actually just skeletons that they place 434 00:24:27,350 --> 00:24:26,240 you know a wax face over and wax hands 435 00:24:30,950 --> 00:24:27,360 over the 436 00:24:33,750 --> 00:24:30,960 the skeletal hands to me 437 00:24:34,390 --> 00:24:33,760 it's a crazy claim to make that these 438 00:24:37,510 --> 00:24:34,400 bodies 439 00:24:40,789 --> 00:24:37,520 are in some some glorious 440 00:24:43,190 --> 00:24:40,799 holy state of not you know 441 00:24:45,029 --> 00:24:43,200 not rotting when they are and you're 442 00:24:49,590 --> 00:24:45,039 using wax and fake stuff 443 00:24:52,070 --> 00:24:49,600 on top of a skeleton to try to sell it 444 00:24:54,870 --> 00:24:52,080 i thought a lot about why would they 445 00:24:57,830 --> 00:24:54,880 fake these things and then 446 00:24:59,350 --> 00:24:57,840 i started to remember the value the 447 00:25:02,230 --> 00:24:59,360 financial value of 448 00:25:02,789 --> 00:25:02,240 pilgrimage pilgrimages for those that 449 00:25:05,269 --> 00:25:02,799 don't know 450 00:25:07,830 --> 00:25:05,279 in many cultures it is sort of a 451 00:25:10,070 --> 00:25:07,840 cultural 452 00:25:12,710 --> 00:25:10,080 requirement that you're supposed to make 453 00:25:15,269 --> 00:25:12,720 a pilgrimage somewhere 454 00:25:15,830 --> 00:25:15,279 i grew up catholic and i'm also polish 455 00:25:17,990 --> 00:25:15,840 so for 456 00:25:19,110 --> 00:25:18,000 us the pilgrimage is to go to chens 457 00:25:25,110 --> 00:25:19,120 jehovah 458 00:25:26,310 --> 00:25:25,120 and that is a very very common among 459 00:25:28,390 --> 00:25:26,320 polish families 460 00:25:29,830 --> 00:25:28,400 no matter where you're at in the world 461 00:25:32,549 --> 00:25:29,840 uh where your state 462 00:25:32,950 --> 00:25:32,559 you know sort of poetically would say 463 00:25:34,549 --> 00:25:32,960 that 464 00:25:36,789 --> 00:25:34,559 the you know the polish people have been 465 00:25:40,310 --> 00:25:36,799 scattered to the winds 466 00:25:42,789 --> 00:25:40,320 around the world and polish catholics 467 00:25:43,830 --> 00:25:42,799 believe that you have to return to 468 00:25:46,230 --> 00:25:43,840 poland 469 00:25:48,549 --> 00:25:46,240 more specifically to chance to hover you 470 00:25:50,310 --> 00:25:48,559 have to see chance to hova 471 00:25:52,310 --> 00:25:50,320 i've never gotten there but 472 00:25:53,510 --> 00:25:52,320 interestingly there's a replica of 473 00:25:56,230 --> 00:25:53,520 chance to over 474 00:25:57,750 --> 00:25:56,240 like a half hour from my new house uh 475 00:26:00,390 --> 00:25:57,760 it's the chance to hova 476 00:26:01,830 --> 00:26:00,400 in doyle's town pennsylvania not the 477 00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:01,840 same though you're really supposed to go 478 00:26:06,950 --> 00:26:03,840 to the polish one 479 00:26:11,510 --> 00:26:06,960 and so uh maybe someday i'll do that 480 00:26:14,310 --> 00:26:11,520 my point is pilgrimages are big money 481 00:26:14,870 --> 00:26:14,320 there are basically tourist dollars to 482 00:26:17,029 --> 00:26:14,880 be had 483 00:26:18,149 --> 00:26:17,039 by these churches and cathedrals and 484 00:26:21,190 --> 00:26:18,159 there's tours 485 00:26:23,750 --> 00:26:21,200 and you know you whatever 486 00:26:24,549 --> 00:26:23,760 uh many people will just attend mass 487 00:26:27,909 --> 00:26:24,559 there 488 00:26:31,590 --> 00:26:27,919 where the incorruptible saints body is 489 00:26:33,750 --> 00:26:31,600 and then give a gift of financial 490 00:26:34,710 --> 00:26:33,760 you're supposed to give a financial gift 491 00:26:37,990 --> 00:26:34,720 to them 492 00:26:40,310 --> 00:26:38,000 to the priests of course uh 493 00:26:41,750 --> 00:26:40,320 yeah i've always joked there it's like 494 00:26:43,350 --> 00:26:41,760 father grab a dollar 495 00:26:45,029 --> 00:26:43,360 right you know they're gonna grab a 496 00:26:45,590 --> 00:26:45,039 dollar friends they're gonna get a 497 00:26:49,110 --> 00:26:45,600 dollar 498 00:26:50,710 --> 00:26:49,120 so these fake incorruptible bodies that 499 00:26:53,029 --> 00:26:50,720 are that they're claiming some kind of 500 00:26:55,990 --> 00:26:53,039 paranormal or supernatural 501 00:26:57,029 --> 00:26:56,000 reasoning for that our you know wax 502 00:27:00,789 --> 00:26:57,039 fakes 503 00:27:03,990 --> 00:27:00,799 are put there so that people come 504 00:27:06,390 --> 00:27:04,000 and venerate that place as sort of holy 505 00:27:07,590 --> 00:27:06,400 that people appreciate the priests that 506 00:27:10,789 --> 00:27:07,600 run that 507 00:27:14,390 --> 00:27:10,799 church and take care of that saints 508 00:27:16,789 --> 00:27:14,400 body and give them a few dollars 509 00:27:19,190 --> 00:27:16,799 this my friends may just be the reason 510 00:27:19,990 --> 00:27:19,200 why that there is just outright fakery 511 00:27:23,269 --> 00:27:20,000 involved with 512 00:27:24,710 --> 00:27:23,279 some of these in so-called incorruptible 513 00:27:27,750 --> 00:27:24,720 bodies 514 00:27:28,310 --> 00:27:27,760 now conversely i have found examples of 515 00:27:32,310 --> 00:27:28,320 a few 516 00:27:35,269 --> 00:27:32,320 where the churches cathedrals 517 00:27:35,909 --> 00:27:35,279 resting places and caretakers of the 518 00:27:39,510 --> 00:27:35,919 bodies 519 00:27:39,909 --> 00:27:39,520 claim there is no wax help there is no 520 00:27:43,029 --> 00:27:39,919 fake 521 00:27:45,510 --> 00:27:43,039 face that's the actual body 522 00:27:47,430 --> 00:27:45,520 but interestingly none of them will or 523 00:27:49,909 --> 00:27:47,440 have submitted the bodies 524 00:27:51,990 --> 00:27:49,919 that are supposedly in these incredibly 525 00:27:55,190 --> 00:27:52,000 preserved states 526 00:27:57,350 --> 00:27:55,200 they will not submit uh to scientific 527 00:27:59,269 --> 00:27:57,360 examination and yet as we saw 528 00:28:01,269 --> 00:27:59,279 in this sort of propaganda that's a 529 00:28:04,310 --> 00:28:01,279 catholic propaganda video 530 00:28:06,149 --> 00:28:04,320 basically as we saw in that they claim 531 00:28:08,549 --> 00:28:06,159 that science cannot explain it 532 00:28:09,590 --> 00:28:08,559 well maybe science could if you allowed 533 00:28:13,110 --> 00:28:09,600 scientists 534 00:28:16,789 --> 00:28:13,120 access to study these things i find that 535 00:28:17,029 --> 00:28:16,799 uh you know it's disingenuous at best 536 00:28:19,750 --> 00:28:17,039 and 537 00:28:22,549 --> 00:28:19,760 outright dishonest to say science cannot 538 00:28:26,310 --> 00:28:22,559 explain these things 539 00:28:28,310 --> 00:28:26,320 so friends uh with that i will turn my 540 00:28:30,070 --> 00:28:28,320 total attention here to the live chat 541 00:28:32,230 --> 00:28:30,080 i'm sorry i sort of ramble tonight 542 00:28:34,789 --> 00:28:32,240 but uh you know this has been a personal 543 00:28:38,149 --> 00:28:34,799 interest of mine for quite some time 544 00:28:42,470 --> 00:28:38,159 so i want to know what you guys think 545 00:28:45,750 --> 00:28:42,480 are these real are these uh 546 00:28:48,870 --> 00:28:45,760 are these all frauds maybe a 547 00:28:51,350 --> 00:28:48,880 few are genuine and why 548 00:28:53,029 --> 00:28:51,360 why would they fake these things in so 549 00:28:56,389 --> 00:28:53,039 many cases why would they fake 550 00:28:56,789 --> 00:28:56,399 faces and hands etc or just an entire 551 00:28:59,190 --> 00:28:56,799 fake 552 00:28:59,830 --> 00:28:59,200 body with a skeleton in another box 553 00:29:04,149 --> 00:28:59,840 underneath 554 00:29:07,269 --> 00:29:04,159 that fake body very strange 555 00:29:09,110 --> 00:29:07,279 what do you guys think brent gray says 556 00:29:25,269 --> 00:29:09,120 but god will protect the pilgrims 557 00:29:29,029 --> 00:29:27,350 carol utley says sin all week then 558 00:29:32,230 --> 00:29:29,039 confess on sunday 559 00:29:34,149 --> 00:29:32,240 yeah and that is the way of 560 00:29:35,830 --> 00:29:34,159 that's the way i grew up you know i 561 00:29:37,990 --> 00:29:35,840 never understood that concept but 562 00:29:39,909 --> 00:29:38,000 eventually i asked enough priests and a 563 00:29:41,110 --> 00:29:39,919 priest one time a priest gave me a 564 00:29:43,269 --> 00:29:41,120 really good answer 565 00:29:44,710 --> 00:29:43,279 and that is if you just keep doing the 566 00:29:45,669 --> 00:29:44,720 same sin over and over and you don't 567 00:29:47,750 --> 00:29:45,679 learn from it 568 00:29:49,350 --> 00:29:47,760 i'm not going to absolve you of your sin 569 00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:49,360 and i was kind of surprised 570 00:29:52,789 --> 00:29:51,600 this was in confession and he said 571 00:29:54,389 --> 00:29:52,799 you've been coming to me every week 572 00:29:56,870 --> 00:29:54,399 saying that you're doing this 573 00:29:58,230 --> 00:29:56,880 uh you're not sorry you're coming here 574 00:30:00,310 --> 00:29:58,240 telling me you're sorry 575 00:30:02,230 --> 00:30:00,320 uh but you're not sorry and you're not 576 00:30:03,669 --> 00:30:02,240 learning that that's wrong or you 577 00:30:04,630 --> 00:30:03,679 wouldn't keep doing it so i'm not gonna 578 00:30:07,190 --> 00:30:04,640 forgive you 579 00:30:08,710 --> 00:30:07,200 i was like scared like does this mean 580 00:30:11,590 --> 00:30:08,720 i'm going to hell 581 00:30:12,630 --> 00:30:11,600 this sin won't come off my soul right 582 00:30:14,149 --> 00:30:12,640 but eventually 583 00:30:15,669 --> 00:30:14,159 you know he talked to me again at 584 00:30:17,510 --> 00:30:15,679 another confession 585 00:30:19,350 --> 00:30:17,520 because that by that i didn't do that 586 00:30:22,070 --> 00:30:19,360 thing again for a week 587 00:30:22,630 --> 00:30:22,080 right and then he said okay then you're 588 00:30:24,710 --> 00:30:22,640 learning 589 00:30:26,630 --> 00:30:24,720 then you know say it say eight hail 590 00:30:28,870 --> 00:30:26,640 marys and ten our fathers 591 00:30:30,230 --> 00:30:28,880 and your sins are forgiven it's like 592 00:30:31,669 --> 00:30:30,240 magic 593 00:30:33,830 --> 00:30:31,679 i always thought confession was like 594 00:30:36,950 --> 00:30:33,840 magic praise god my 595 00:30:38,789 --> 00:30:36,960 sins are all forgiven i feel good i 596 00:30:40,630 --> 00:30:38,799 gotta tell you you do feel good after 597 00:30:42,630 --> 00:30:40,640 confession though you kind of admit 598 00:30:44,470 --> 00:30:42,640 your faults to another human being and 599 00:30:47,110 --> 00:30:44,480 then he tells you that 600 00:30:49,669 --> 00:30:47,120 he's got some direct line to god and god 601 00:30:52,389 --> 00:30:49,679 forgives you and so does he 602 00:30:54,310 --> 00:30:52,399 it makes you feel good uh and that's 603 00:30:57,029 --> 00:30:54,320 part of what i guess they sell 604 00:30:59,269 --> 00:30:57,039 at the catholic church but confession is 605 00:31:00,870 --> 00:30:59,279 something that i do not miss 606 00:31:03,430 --> 00:31:00,880 i still consider myself christian but 607 00:31:03,990 --> 00:31:03,440 not catholic i do not confess my sins to 608 00:31:07,190 --> 00:31:04,000 any man 609 00:31:10,149 --> 00:31:07,200 i confess my sins only to god now 610 00:31:11,750 --> 00:31:10,159 i don't believe in intermediaries 611 00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:11,760 between god and man 612 00:31:16,230 --> 00:31:13,840 i don't believe in anointed ones that 613 00:31:23,269 --> 00:31:16,240 have some better direct line to god than 614 00:31:27,830 --> 00:31:25,590 well friends uh we have a just a few 615 00:31:31,509 --> 00:31:27,840 more weeks of this sweat box office of 616 00:31:33,269 --> 00:31:31,519 mine i can't wait for it to get cooler 617 00:31:35,029 --> 00:31:33,279 just a few more weeks just gotta sweat 618 00:31:45,350 --> 00:31:35,039 it out for a few more weeks 619 00:31:48,870 --> 00:31:47,029 brad gray how do you sing the polish 620 00:31:50,070 --> 00:31:48,880 national anthem is this a polock joke 621 00:31:51,909 --> 00:31:50,080 brad gray 622 00:31:54,070 --> 00:31:51,919 i don't know i know how to sing stole a 623 00:31:55,350 --> 00:31:54,080 lot in polish but not uh 624 00:32:00,149 --> 00:31:55,360 i don't even know what the polish 625 00:32:02,870 --> 00:32:00,159 national anthem is 626 00:32:03,509 --> 00:32:02,880 technically the church used to open all 627 00:32:05,350 --> 00:32:03,519 the time 628 00:32:06,630 --> 00:32:05,360 mass was said more often you can make 629 00:32:07,509 --> 00:32:06,640 appointments with the priests for 630 00:32:09,430 --> 00:32:07,519 confessions 631 00:32:11,269 --> 00:32:09,440 yeah that's basically the way well in my 632 00:32:13,029 --> 00:32:11,279 church the way that it went is that 633 00:32:15,110 --> 00:32:13,039 confession was at a set time like 634 00:32:15,909 --> 00:32:15,120 saturday at 2 p.m and you would go to 635 00:32:17,669 --> 00:32:15,919 the church 636 00:32:19,909 --> 00:32:17,679 and everybody sort of wait in line there 637 00:32:21,750 --> 00:32:19,919 usually wasn't for 638 00:32:23,430 --> 00:32:21,760 as huge a church as it was they would 639 00:32:24,950 --> 00:32:23,440 put like four or five priests in there 640 00:32:26,950 --> 00:32:24,960 there wasn't that long a line 641 00:32:29,110 --> 00:32:26,960 you can get in and out in 20 minutes 642 00:32:34,070 --> 00:32:29,120 well depending on how many sins you had 643 00:32:37,190 --> 00:32:35,669 jeanette krazenko i didn't know you were 644 00:32:41,110 --> 00:32:37,200 polish absolutely 645 00:32:42,470 --> 00:32:41,120 yeah half polish i'm uh i'm actually 646 00:32:46,070 --> 00:32:42,480 half polish and 647 00:32:47,110 --> 00:32:46,080 half irish and that is a dangerous 648 00:32:49,029 --> 00:32:47,120 combination 649 00:32:51,909 --> 00:32:49,039 my mother used to say i was half drunk 650 00:32:56,230 --> 00:32:51,919 and half stupid 651 00:33:09,029 --> 00:32:56,240 it's nice genocide says i'm pagan 652 00:33:13,750 --> 00:33:11,830 steven ronan says i hated confession 653 00:33:17,909 --> 00:33:13,760 yeah i don't know 654 00:33:20,549 --> 00:33:17,919 i i i find the concept 655 00:33:22,310 --> 00:33:20,559 of doing that so alien to me now like 656 00:33:25,029 --> 00:33:22,320 you know but i you know 657 00:33:26,549 --> 00:33:25,039 catholic for you know my whole life 658 00:33:29,830 --> 00:33:26,559 through high school so 659 00:33:31,669 --> 00:33:29,840 i guess i did that a lot right and then 660 00:33:33,830 --> 00:33:31,679 eventually i kind of fell away from the 661 00:33:34,230 --> 00:33:33,840 catholic faith and and i didn't feel bad 662 00:33:36,870 --> 00:33:34,240 about 663 00:33:37,990 --> 00:33:36,880 not going to confession uh but then once 664 00:33:41,190 --> 00:33:38,000 i got really drunk 665 00:33:43,110 --> 00:33:41,200 and went to confession at like uh it was 666 00:33:45,110 --> 00:33:43,120 like the day after 667 00:33:47,029 --> 00:33:45,120 i don't know maybe it was easter morning 668 00:33:47,750 --> 00:33:47,039 or something like that don't ask me why 669 00:33:50,789 --> 00:33:47,760 but i got 670 00:33:52,630 --> 00:33:50,799 drunk as a [\h__\h] and then i 671 00:33:54,230 --> 00:33:52,640 got like the crying drunks and i was 672 00:33:57,430 --> 00:33:54,240 like uh so 673 00:33:59,269 --> 00:33:57,440 sort of like uh you know like regretful 674 00:34:01,110 --> 00:33:59,279 of things while i was really really 675 00:34:02,549 --> 00:34:01,120 drunk and there happened to be a church 676 00:34:04,149 --> 00:34:02,559 you know so i went in there and went to 677 00:34:07,269 --> 00:34:04,159 the priest and like 678 00:34:08,790 --> 00:34:07,279 had this drunken ranting confession and 679 00:34:10,629 --> 00:34:08,800 i just remember him telling me like it's 680 00:34:12,470 --> 00:34:10,639 okay jesus loves you 681 00:34:14,069 --> 00:34:12,480 you need to go sleep it off he knew i 682 00:34:15,109 --> 00:34:14,079 was drunk because i was like slurring my 683 00:34:17,990 --> 00:34:15,119 words and [\h__\h] 684 00:34:19,430 --> 00:34:18,000 it's it's such that's going to be a 685 00:34:23,510 --> 00:34:19,440 movie scene someday 686 00:34:26,149 --> 00:34:23,520 me drunk off my ass uh confessing like 687 00:34:28,149 --> 00:34:26,159 10 years worth of sins to some poor 688 00:34:29,750 --> 00:34:28,159 [\h__\h] priest right he was just like oh 689 00:34:33,349 --> 00:34:29,760 [\h__\h] here's another drunk 690 00:34:35,669 --> 00:34:33,359 this guy must be irish right 691 00:34:38,069 --> 00:34:35,679 oh no it was it was the day after st 692 00:34:39,030 --> 00:34:38,079 patrick's day that's what day it was not 693 00:34:41,190 --> 00:34:39,040 easter the day 694 00:34:42,950 --> 00:34:41,200 after st patrick's day so i had this 695 00:34:44,869 --> 00:34:42,960 bender crazy 696 00:34:46,149 --> 00:34:44,879 irish bender and then i went to 697 00:34:48,470 --> 00:34:46,159 confession the next day 698 00:34:51,109 --> 00:34:48,480 looking good irish catholic well good 699 00:34:55,349 --> 00:34:51,119 polish irish catholic whatever 700 00:34:56,869 --> 00:34:55,359 funny stuff steve ronan says i am gone 701 00:34:58,390 --> 00:34:56,879 since sixth class 702 00:34:59,910 --> 00:34:58,400 yeah i guess you know what are you gonna 703 00:35:02,390 --> 00:34:59,920 do 704 00:35:04,390 --> 00:35:02,400 i like the old gods norse mostly i can't 705 00:35:06,310 --> 00:35:04,400 get into abrahamic religions 706 00:35:08,069 --> 00:35:06,320 i don't know genocide it's that stuff 707 00:35:10,870 --> 00:35:08,079 seems like 708 00:35:13,349 --> 00:35:10,880 weird to me like thor and odin you mean 709 00:35:14,790 --> 00:35:13,359 like those kind of norse gods 710 00:35:16,230 --> 00:35:14,800 this stuff seems crazy to me maybe 711 00:35:17,589 --> 00:35:16,240 because i read it in comic books but 712 00:35:20,790 --> 00:35:17,599 then again catholic 713 00:35:23,349 --> 00:35:20,800 doctrine is even crazier you know like 714 00:35:24,710 --> 00:35:23,359 this guy came and then he died on a 715 00:35:28,150 --> 00:35:24,720 cross and then he 716 00:35:30,790 --> 00:35:28,160 you know was resurrected it's just like 717 00:35:31,670 --> 00:35:30,800 as crazy as the as the stories of thor 718 00:35:38,550 --> 00:35:31,680 and odin 719 00:35:41,990 --> 00:35:40,710 did you hang on to the shame around sex 720 00:35:44,230 --> 00:35:42,000 i don't think so 721 00:35:45,750 --> 00:35:44,240 steve rowan i don't well first of all 722 00:35:47,670 --> 00:35:45,760 i'm married now so there's really no 723 00:35:50,069 --> 00:35:47,680 shame whatsoever and you know if you're 724 00:35:53,109 --> 00:35:50,079 in a committed relationship but 725 00:35:53,589 --> 00:35:53,119 even you know if i had a girlfriend i 726 00:35:55,109 --> 00:35:53,599 kind of 727 00:35:56,710 --> 00:35:55,119 i didn't feel any shame around sex as 728 00:35:58,069 --> 00:35:56,720 long as her and i had an understanding 729 00:36:00,470 --> 00:35:58,079 and you know 730 00:36:02,950 --> 00:36:00,480 no i didn't i mean maybe a little bit 731 00:36:05,430 --> 00:36:02,960 when i was younger you feel that like 732 00:36:05,990 --> 00:36:05,440 i gotta throw my clothes on and get out 733 00:36:07,750 --> 00:36:06,000 of here 734 00:36:09,670 --> 00:36:07,760 like you you almost feel like you did 735 00:36:12,230 --> 00:36:09,680 something wrong right they kind of 736 00:36:14,390 --> 00:36:12,240 brainwashed you into believing 737 00:36:15,829 --> 00:36:14,400 outside of marriage is some major sin 738 00:36:16,710 --> 00:36:15,839 and you're going to go to hell if you do 739 00:36:20,150 --> 00:36:16,720 that 740 00:36:22,470 --> 00:36:20,160 so it's kind of like hormones versus 741 00:36:23,430 --> 00:36:22,480 the priests in your head when you're 14 742 00:36:28,390 --> 00:36:23,440 and 15 and 743 00:36:31,670 --> 00:36:30,069 there's a lot of polls in ireland and 744 00:36:33,750 --> 00:36:31,680 england it's the second number 745 00:36:35,589 --> 00:36:33,760 nationality there i did not know that 746 00:36:39,829 --> 00:36:35,599 jeannette krazenko but it makes sense to 747 00:36:44,710 --> 00:36:41,349 carol always says my grandparents were 748 00:36:50,069 --> 00:36:48,550 and jonas sides a celtic viking 749 00:36:51,829 --> 00:36:50,079 i've never heard someone describe 750 00:36:56,310 --> 00:36:51,839 themselves as a celtic 751 00:36:59,349 --> 00:36:58,630 yes caroline i believe this there's some 752 00:37:08,230 --> 00:36:59,359 truth in 753 00:37:09,510 --> 00:37:08,240 all myths and legends 754 00:37:11,430 --> 00:37:09,520 stephen roane and me neither but 755 00:37:13,990 --> 00:37:11,440 sometimes it would pop up yeah i suppose 756 00:37:17,750 --> 00:37:16,230 and six is design evidently you will go 757 00:37:19,349 --> 00:37:17,760 to hell for anything and everything you 758 00:37:20,870 --> 00:37:19,359 do it's ridiculous i don't know how 759 00:37:21,670 --> 00:37:20,880 people can believe in that stuff so 760 00:37:24,630 --> 00:37:21,680 blindly 761 00:37:27,349 --> 00:37:24,640 yeah i mean you can't you can't 762 00:37:30,390 --> 00:37:27,359 brainwash success you get you know 763 00:37:33,349 --> 00:37:30,400 get an hour of listen to us 764 00:37:34,550 --> 00:37:33,359 tell you about our religion every day 765 00:37:37,589 --> 00:37:34,560 for 766 00:37:39,670 --> 00:37:37,599 over a decade you uh 767 00:37:42,230 --> 00:37:39,680 it starts to grain on you i guess and 768 00:37:44,870 --> 00:37:42,240 wear away your 769 00:37:47,030 --> 00:37:44,880 your your reasoning ability and it's 770 00:37:48,790 --> 00:37:47,040 sort of like a group dynamic like it's 771 00:37:49,990 --> 00:37:48,800 just easier to surrender and go yeah 772 00:37:53,030 --> 00:37:50,000 this is what i believe 773 00:37:56,069 --> 00:37:53,040 you know later you may 774 00:37:56,870 --> 00:37:56,079 uh sort of second guess that belief like 775 00:37:59,190 --> 00:37:56,880 i did and 776 00:38:00,390 --> 00:37:59,200 uh come to your own conclusions about 777 00:38:02,870 --> 00:38:00,400 what you were taught 778 00:38:05,510 --> 00:38:02,880 but i gotta say that uh the catholics 779 00:38:07,990 --> 00:38:05,520 were amazing and educating me 780 00:38:08,790 --> 00:38:08,000 i wouldn't trade that education for 781 00:38:10,950 --> 00:38:08,800 anything 782 00:38:12,790 --> 00:38:10,960 you know they do a good job so much 783 00:38:15,670 --> 00:38:12,800 better than public school 784 00:38:16,550 --> 00:38:15,680 uh to go to a catholic school was a 785 00:38:18,950 --> 00:38:16,560 privilege 786 00:38:20,550 --> 00:38:18,960 because they're known to be incredibly 787 00:38:21,670 --> 00:38:20,560 good educators and i don't mean just 788 00:38:23,829 --> 00:38:21,680 religion i mean all 789 00:38:26,790 --> 00:38:23,839 you know they they would have like you 790 00:38:27,510 --> 00:38:26,800 know very very educated people teaching 791 00:38:28,950 --> 00:38:27,520 each subject 792 00:38:30,069 --> 00:38:28,960 especially when he got to high school 793 00:38:30,870 --> 00:38:30,079 you know they would have somebody that 794 00:38:32,950 --> 00:38:30,880 was an 795 00:38:34,230 --> 00:38:32,960 expert in algebra teaching algebra 796 00:38:36,630 --> 00:38:34,240 expert 797 00:38:37,750 --> 00:38:36,640 at social studies teaching that and so 798 00:38:39,589 --> 00:38:37,760 on and so on 799 00:38:46,550 --> 00:38:39,599 and so you were you were almost forced 800 00:38:48,230 --> 00:38:46,560 to get a great education 801 00:38:50,470 --> 00:38:48,240 carol utley my other side came from 802 00:38:53,670 --> 00:38:50,480 ireland yeah i'm a half breed 803 00:38:55,270 --> 00:38:53,680 irish irishman too 804 00:38:56,710 --> 00:38:55,280 i don't even know the bible only what 805 00:38:59,670 --> 00:38:56,720 other people preach 806 00:39:01,829 --> 00:38:59,680 yeah i got a lot of scripture study so i 807 00:39:02,069 --> 00:39:01,839 happen to know the bible very very well 808 00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:02,079 i 809 00:39:21,270 --> 00:39:19,200 that 810 00:39:23,589 --> 00:39:21,280 jean-claude at beyond mystic had these 811 00:39:25,430 --> 00:39:23,599 banners going by like ticker tape at the 812 00:39:28,790 --> 00:39:25,440 bottom of the screen 813 00:39:30,310 --> 00:39:28,800 and i go wow that's awesome i gotta find 814 00:39:32,310 --> 00:39:30,320 out how you do that i thought it was a 815 00:39:33,270 --> 00:39:32,320 very very complicated process but it 816 00:39:34,950 --> 00:39:33,280 turns out 817 00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:34,960 that there's this button that my 818 00:39:39,430 --> 00:39:36,880 half-blind stupidness 819 00:39:40,150 --> 00:39:39,440 did not see that says banners and you 820 00:39:41,829 --> 00:39:40,160 just 821 00:39:43,670 --> 00:39:41,839 click one of these banners and write 822 00:39:47,670 --> 00:39:43,680 whatever you want to write 823 00:39:49,589 --> 00:39:47,680 so uh with that being said now we have 824 00:39:53,349 --> 00:39:49,599 these banners 825 00:39:56,390 --> 00:39:53,359 uh to beg you know to do my begging bowl 826 00:39:58,630 --> 00:39:56,400 begging for money thing uh if you 827 00:39:59,670 --> 00:39:58,640 want to become a patreon supporter 828 00:40:01,910 --> 00:39:59,680 please do 829 00:40:03,349 --> 00:40:01,920 uh if you want to see our show continue 830 00:40:06,230 --> 00:40:03,359 links in the about section 831 00:40:06,950 --> 00:40:06,240 of our channel so now hopefully i can 832 00:40:08,829 --> 00:40:06,960 beg less 833 00:40:10,069 --> 00:40:08,839 and just leave that up there on the 834 00:40:11,910 --> 00:40:10,079 screen 835 00:40:14,309 --> 00:40:11,920 maybe it's a subliminal message that 836 00:40:15,750 --> 00:40:14,319 will affect people and make them send me 837 00:40:19,510 --> 00:40:15,760 their money 838 00:40:21,430 --> 00:40:19,520 that would be funny uh 839 00:40:22,710 --> 00:40:21,440 and of course i have multiple of these 840 00:40:25,190 --> 00:40:22,720 like uh 841 00:40:27,589 --> 00:40:25,200 send us money leeches make a paypal 842 00:40:29,190 --> 00:40:27,599 donation 843 00:40:31,750 --> 00:40:29,200 and here's how to make the paypal 844 00:40:35,589 --> 00:40:31,760 donation be sure to include your 845 00:40:38,069 --> 00:40:35,599 uh your paypal or excuse me your email 846 00:40:39,270 --> 00:40:38,079 your chat room id not email your chat 847 00:40:42,069 --> 00:40:39,280 room 848 00:40:42,790 --> 00:40:42,079 user id so that you know i will know who 849 00:40:46,630 --> 00:40:42,800 it came from 850 00:40:55,030 --> 00:40:52,710 uh one second here 851 00:40:55,829 --> 00:40:55,040 and of course i get tired of saying this 852 00:40:58,630 --> 00:40:55,839 too so 853 00:40:59,990 --> 00:40:58,640 we also have this one now please like 854 00:41:01,990 --> 00:41:00,000 comment and subscribe 855 00:41:03,190 --> 00:41:02,000 please send our channel address to some 856 00:41:05,670 --> 00:41:03,200 friends 857 00:41:06,550 --> 00:41:05,680 it would be very very helpful and 858 00:41:09,589 --> 00:41:06,560 beneficial 859 00:41:12,790 --> 00:41:09,599 if we could get some 860 00:41:16,069 --> 00:41:12,800 uh some 861 00:41:17,750 --> 00:41:16,079 support there's a few ways to support us 862 00:41:20,150 --> 00:41:17,760 uh of course the first is of course 863 00:41:21,510 --> 00:41:20,160 financial for either paypal or patreon 864 00:41:23,190 --> 00:41:21,520 i understand if you don't have a few 865 00:41:23,910 --> 00:41:23,200 bucks so another way that you can 866 00:41:27,109 --> 00:41:23,920 support us 867 00:41:28,790 --> 00:41:27,119 is to like comment and subscribe and of 868 00:41:30,470 --> 00:41:28,800 course we all know people that are 869 00:41:31,430 --> 00:41:30,480 interested in these strange subjects 870 00:41:33,430 --> 00:41:31,440 please 871 00:41:34,790 --> 00:41:33,440 if you have friends send our channel 872 00:41:37,589 --> 00:41:34,800 address to some friends 873 00:41:39,510 --> 00:41:37,599 ask them to come and join us in this 874 00:41:41,589 --> 00:41:39,520 journey called truth seekers 875 00:41:43,990 --> 00:41:41,599 i would sincerely appreciate your help 876 00:41:47,270 --> 00:41:44,000 and support to try to grow 877 00:41:50,309 --> 00:41:47,280 the show so friends 878 00:41:53,430 --> 00:41:50,319 uh there was one other thing i guess 879 00:41:53,910 --> 00:41:53,440 uh one other thing that i was gonna just 880 00:41:57,510 --> 00:41:53,920 share 881 00:42:01,109 --> 00:41:57,520 and that is the saint john newman body 882 00:42:04,470 --> 00:42:01,119 i uh just gonna share 883 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,870 okay here we go 884 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,150 okay 885 00:42:16,390 --> 00:42:15,349 let me i just wanted to show you guys 886 00:42:19,349 --> 00:42:16,400 that what 887 00:42:20,710 --> 00:42:19,359 the body that i saw as a child which by 888 00:42:22,790 --> 00:42:20,720 the way it's still there 889 00:42:24,870 --> 00:42:22,800 it's called the st john newman shrine in 890 00:42:28,710 --> 00:42:24,880 center city philadelphia and you can go 891 00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:36,790 uh one second 892 00:42:40,150 --> 00:42:39,190 there we are so this is saint john 893 00:42:42,870 --> 00:42:40,160 newman 894 00:42:44,150 --> 00:42:42,880 and i don't know if we can get it better 895 00:42:48,870 --> 00:42:44,160 get a better picture 896 00:42:52,150 --> 00:42:48,880 yeah there we go and 897 00:42:54,630 --> 00:42:52,160 you can see friends it looks so smooth 898 00:42:56,390 --> 00:42:54,640 and sort of fake that i recognize that 899 00:43:02,550 --> 00:42:56,400 instantly even as a child 900 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,589 one second 901 00:43:13,030 --> 00:43:09,829 yes so this is the view that i saw 902 00:43:15,670 --> 00:43:13,040 super up close 903 00:43:17,190 --> 00:43:15,680 and oh wait a minute we try to get back 904 00:43:22,470 --> 00:43:17,200 there 905 00:43:26,390 --> 00:43:22,480 course and this is a fresco 906 00:43:29,750 --> 00:43:26,400 or a uh painting i believe 907 00:43:33,109 --> 00:43:29,760 all in the saint john newman shrine 908 00:43:36,390 --> 00:43:34,950 i'm not sure where oh this is just some 909 00:43:40,150 --> 00:43:36,400 other picture sorry so 910 00:43:45,670 --> 00:43:40,160 so that is the major 911 00:43:50,069 --> 00:43:47,750 maybe uh st john newman doesn't want me 912 00:43:59,190 --> 00:43:50,079 sharing this 913 00:44:12,390 --> 00:44:03,829 there we go let's get back to this 914 00:44:26,230 --> 00:44:23,430 okay wait a minute let me try this again 915 00:44:28,150 --> 00:44:26,240 there we go jeez i didn't realize i'm 916 00:44:31,030 --> 00:44:28,160 sorry friends i was off another screen 917 00:44:31,510 --> 00:44:31,040 and and this is what i was seeing um but 918 00:44:43,349 --> 00:44:31,520 the 919 00:44:46,309 --> 00:44:43,359 completely 920 00:44:48,150 --> 00:44:46,319 it really looks fake and this of course 921 00:44:51,109 --> 00:44:48,160 is saint john 922 00:44:53,270 --> 00:44:51,119 a depiction of him alive that is a 923 00:44:55,589 --> 00:44:53,280 painting in a fresco 924 00:44:56,550 --> 00:44:55,599 there in the in the shrine in the 925 00:45:01,190 --> 00:44:56,560 cathedral 926 00:45:11,030 --> 00:45:03,910 so one second now gonna get caught up 927 00:45:14,069 --> 00:45:13,750 yeah jeanette kriszenko i absolutely 928 00:45:17,109 --> 00:45:14,079 love 929 00:45:18,069 --> 00:45:17,119 bernadette so peaceful yeah i think that 930 00:45:21,750 --> 00:45:18,079 bernadette is my 931 00:45:23,670 --> 00:45:21,760 favorite as well um and and then 932 00:45:26,230 --> 00:45:23,680 i guess my second favorite is saint john 933 00:45:29,430 --> 00:45:26,240 newman because i've seen it in person 934 00:45:31,910 --> 00:45:29,440 and it was just sort of like 935 00:45:33,349 --> 00:45:31,920 it was so weird to me to realize even as 936 00:45:35,589 --> 00:45:33,359 a child that the catholic church was 937 00:45:37,349 --> 00:45:35,599 kind of faking something 938 00:45:39,190 --> 00:45:37,359 and that made me start to question a lot 939 00:45:42,390 --> 00:45:39,200 of different things about the 940 00:45:44,710 --> 00:45:42,400 catholic doctrine i suppose and 941 00:45:45,510 --> 00:45:44,720 so to this day i count that journey down 942 00:45:52,550 --> 00:45:45,520 to see that 943 00:45:55,750 --> 00:45:54,870 stephen ronin i used to make up stuff to 944 00:45:57,510 --> 00:45:55,760 confess 945 00:45:59,109 --> 00:45:57,520 you know i did the same thing especially 946 00:45:59,990 --> 00:45:59,119 when i got to be like a teenager because 947 00:46:01,510 --> 00:46:00,000 you don't want to tell 948 00:46:04,470 --> 00:46:01,520 a priest that you're messing around with 949 00:46:06,710 --> 00:46:04,480 a girl or hooking up with a girl or like 950 00:46:07,910 --> 00:46:06,720 you know you got to second base last 951 00:46:09,670 --> 00:46:07,920 week you know 952 00:46:10,790 --> 00:46:09,680 and they were pervy they would ask you 953 00:46:12,470 --> 00:46:10,800 if you were doing that stuff i think 954 00:46:16,069 --> 00:46:12,480 they liked hearing those stories 955 00:46:18,150 --> 00:46:16,079 but uh yeah so i had a set thing like uh 956 00:46:20,069 --> 00:46:18,160 i had a whole spiel like i was late to 957 00:46:21,510 --> 00:46:20,079 mass i was 10 minutes late to mass 958 00:46:23,190 --> 00:46:21,520 and it's my fault father i was just 959 00:46:23,910 --> 00:46:23,200 selfish and i wasn't paying attention to 960 00:46:25,510 --> 00:46:23,920 the time 961 00:46:28,150 --> 00:46:25,520 i should have given that time to god i 962 00:46:29,990 --> 00:46:28,160 was disrespectful to my parents and i 963 00:46:32,630 --> 00:46:30,000 cursed a bunch of times 964 00:46:33,030 --> 00:46:32,640 when i uh i talked smack by my brother's 965 00:46:36,069 --> 00:46:33,040 back 966 00:46:37,109 --> 00:46:36,079 because you know yeah and then they 967 00:46:39,589 --> 00:46:37,119 would give you like 968 00:46:40,950 --> 00:46:39,599 just real quick penance like a few 969 00:46:42,710 --> 00:46:40,960 prayers and you were done 970 00:46:44,150 --> 00:46:42,720 because if i i always worried if i told 971 00:46:44,470 --> 00:46:44,160 that priest what i really have been up 972 00:46:46,390 --> 00:46:44,480 to 973 00:46:47,990 --> 00:46:46,400 i'll be here saying rosaries until next 974 00:46:50,309 --> 00:46:48,000 week 975 00:46:52,550 --> 00:46:50,319 so yeah which makes the whole sacrament 976 00:46:54,390 --> 00:46:52,560 kind of totally 977 00:46:56,150 --> 00:46:54,400 ineffectual if you're not actually 978 00:46:59,750 --> 00:46:56,160 telling the priest the truth and i 979 00:47:01,750 --> 00:46:59,760 you know steve ronan i knew like half 980 00:47:03,430 --> 00:47:01,760 at least half the kid just made [\h__\h] up 981 00:47:04,950 --> 00:47:03,440 and lied we didn't tell them exactly 982 00:47:06,790 --> 00:47:04,960 what we were really doing 983 00:47:08,150 --> 00:47:06,800 and again they would force you to go you 984 00:47:14,790 --> 00:47:08,160 had to go do this 985 00:47:18,870 --> 00:47:17,270 oh there is paranormal jiggy is now in 986 00:47:19,430 --> 00:47:18,880 the house you missed the creepy dead 987 00:47:22,150 --> 00:47:19,440 people 988 00:47:25,030 --> 00:47:22,160 paranormal vegeta you missed the creepy 989 00:47:27,990 --> 00:47:25,040 dead people uh 990 00:47:29,829 --> 00:47:28,000 but it's okay because paranormal jiggy 991 00:47:30,470 --> 00:47:29,839 uh educated me about something and 992 00:47:33,750 --> 00:47:30,480 paranormal 993 00:47:38,069 --> 00:47:33,760 jiggy is on what is it called 994 00:47:39,829 --> 00:47:38,079 vp t right black people time 995 00:47:41,589 --> 00:47:39,839 our number jiggy's on black people time 996 00:47:43,750 --> 00:47:41,599 you cannot blame a brother for being 997 00:47:46,549 --> 00:47:43,760 black people time and showing up 998 00:47:47,589 --> 00:47:46,559 45 minutes late or something because 999 00:47:53,589 --> 00:47:47,599 that's just 1000 00:47:54,150 --> 00:47:53,599 oh cpt colorful time that's what it is 1001 00:47:55,990 --> 00:47:54,160 paranormal 1002 00:47:57,750 --> 00:47:56,000 jiggy i i'm not colored but i suffer 1003 00:48:00,630 --> 00:47:57,760 from this myself 1004 00:48:02,630 --> 00:48:00,640 i just cannot get to where i'm supposed 1005 00:48:03,910 --> 00:48:02,640 to be i tell y'all i tell my wife stuff 1006 00:48:05,829 --> 00:48:03,920 sometimes like yeah 1007 00:48:07,750 --> 00:48:05,839 we're gonna leave for having around noon 1008 00:48:09,349 --> 00:48:07,760 it's like 3 30. 1009 00:48:13,990 --> 00:48:09,359 you know i'm still like all right all 1010 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:19,030 yeah friends so i guess uh 1011 00:48:23,750 --> 00:48:21,829 i guess uh oh i should monitor this uh 1012 00:48:25,990 --> 00:48:23,760 paypal just in case anybody does 1013 00:48:38,230 --> 00:48:26,000 actually 1014 00:48:41,990 --> 00:48:39,990 i'm working on these free gifts that 1015 00:48:45,030 --> 00:48:42,000 we're gonna have so far with 1016 00:48:47,030 --> 00:48:45,040 rosaries and uh 1017 00:48:48,069 --> 00:48:47,040 that's about it but i have other things 1018 00:48:51,349 --> 00:48:48,079 on the way 1019 00:48:55,510 --> 00:48:51,359 and uh we'll be rolling that out shortly 1020 00:48:57,510 --> 00:48:55,520 i suppose and again uh 1021 00:48:59,349 --> 00:48:57,520 you know tonight's broadcast is early 1022 00:49:00,950 --> 00:48:59,359 because i have an incredible amount of 1023 00:49:02,710 --> 00:49:00,960 things that i'm trying to finish 1024 00:49:04,470 --> 00:49:02,720 the good news is that this month there 1025 00:49:06,309 --> 00:49:04,480 will be another mind hack demo and all 1026 00:49:07,510 --> 00:49:06,319 the patreon supporters of course get it 1027 00:49:12,309 --> 00:49:07,520 for free 1028 00:49:14,950 --> 00:49:12,319 patreon which is a dollar a month 1029 00:49:16,390 --> 00:49:14,960 that's going really really well i'm 1030 00:49:17,670 --> 00:49:16,400 excited to be able to share that with 1031 00:49:20,710 --> 00:49:17,680 people soon 1032 00:49:22,470 --> 00:49:20,720 and uh how much what else is going on 1033 00:49:26,230 --> 00:49:22,480 we're getting mood rings 1034 00:49:28,150 --> 00:49:26,240 and this bob lazar element 115 replica 1035 00:49:29,829 --> 00:49:28,160 which is really just a little square or 1036 00:49:31,430 --> 00:49:29,839 i'm sorry a little triangle that's 1037 00:49:34,790 --> 00:49:31,440 painted and it looks 1038 00:49:37,510 --> 00:49:34,800 cool and it glows in the dark so 1039 00:49:39,430 --> 00:49:37,520 fun and prizes will soon await our 1040 00:49:42,870 --> 00:49:39,440 paypal donators 1041 00:49:44,630 --> 00:49:42,880 and uh yeah and uh of course to the 1042 00:49:46,710 --> 00:49:44,640 patreon people we're going to be 1043 00:49:47,829 --> 00:49:46,720 doing another mind hack demo which you 1044 00:49:49,430 --> 00:49:47,839 get 1045 00:49:52,150 --> 00:49:49,440 that's part of the benefit and i'll be 1046 00:49:55,270 --> 00:49:52,160 doing a backstage pass 1047 00:49:56,309 --> 00:49:55,280 audio journal and a few other gifts for 1048 00:49:58,230 --> 00:49:56,319 the paypal 1049 00:50:00,150 --> 00:49:58,240 or excuse me for the patreon people this 1050 00:50:03,589 --> 00:50:00,160 month and i sincerely 1051 00:50:09,109 --> 00:50:03,599 appreciate the patreon people 1052 00:50:15,030 --> 00:50:12,710 help to keep the show rolling on we just 1053 00:50:16,790 --> 00:50:15,040 need we don't need to make a mint here 1054 00:50:19,190 --> 00:50:16,800 but it's nice to have a few dollars 1055 00:50:21,030 --> 00:50:19,200 if i need a microphone or a cable or 1056 00:50:24,470 --> 00:50:21,040 whatever it is that i need 1057 00:50:26,069 --> 00:50:24,480 to be able to do that it's very nice 1058 00:50:28,630 --> 00:50:26,079 so i want to take a moment to thank 1059 00:50:30,470 --> 00:50:28,640 those patreon people and to invite new 1060 00:51:44,470 --> 00:50:30,480 people to sign up 1061 00:51:49,349 --> 00:51:46,710 okay friends so that's my banging bowl 1062 00:51:51,270 --> 00:51:49,359 speech for tonight 1063 00:51:53,190 --> 00:51:51,280 uh-huh we're gonna go back to the live 1064 00:51:58,630 --> 00:51:53,200 chat see if we have anything 1065 00:52:02,069 --> 00:52:00,470 rona and i sometimes work by a catholic 1066 00:52:02,710 --> 00:52:02,079 church i see nuns all the time i just 1067 00:52:07,270 --> 00:52:02,720 want to get 1068 00:52:11,190 --> 00:52:09,990 well listen here's what i will tell you 1069 00:52:14,309 --> 00:52:11,200 about catholics 1070 00:52:16,870 --> 00:52:14,319 but sometimes catholics get a bad rap 1071 00:52:18,069 --> 00:52:16,880 you know uh are the priests greedy hell 1072 00:52:21,109 --> 00:52:18,079 yeah 1073 00:52:22,870 --> 00:52:21,119 uh and can you trust them 1074 00:52:24,309 --> 00:52:22,880 you cannot trust the administrators of 1075 00:52:26,150 --> 00:52:24,319 churches or 1076 00:52:28,390 --> 00:52:26,160 catholic schools because they have their 1077 00:52:32,150 --> 00:52:28,400 own agendas and their own 1078 00:52:33,589 --> 00:52:32,160 uh reason for doing everything uh you 1079 00:52:35,349 --> 00:52:33,599 can't trust them but there are some 1080 00:52:37,349 --> 00:52:35,359 extremely good priests 1081 00:52:38,549 --> 00:52:37,359 and brothers and nuns that i grew up 1082 00:52:41,510 --> 00:52:38,559 with and 1083 00:52:43,190 --> 00:52:41,520 were educated by and i think that by and 1084 00:52:45,349 --> 00:52:43,200 large there are many many 1085 00:52:46,470 --> 00:52:45,359 really good hearted catholic people so 1086 00:52:55,030 --> 00:52:46,480 you can't 1087 00:52:58,870 --> 00:52:56,549 has anyone ever had problems with 1088 00:52:59,589 --> 00:52:58,880 patreon my password is screwed up i want 1089 00:53:01,430 --> 00:52:59,599 to donate 1090 00:53:02,710 --> 00:53:01,440 oh thank you carol i would appreciate 1091 00:53:05,510 --> 00:53:02,720 that you could 1092 00:53:07,349 --> 00:53:05,520 uh reset your password i think patreon 1093 00:53:09,270 --> 00:53:07,359 has an option and they'll send you a 1094 00:53:10,950 --> 00:53:09,280 link to the email that you signed up for 1095 00:53:14,309 --> 00:53:10,960 the patreon with 1096 00:53:23,670 --> 00:53:14,319 in order to uh get your account back i 1097 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:31,910 oh there was no audio on that 1098 00:53:37,510 --> 00:53:33,910 i am not in the hospital as a child she 1099 00:53:41,510 --> 00:53:39,670 besides educating people there were also 1100 00:53:43,910 --> 00:53:41,520 a great deal of catholic 1101 00:53:45,589 --> 00:53:43,920 catholic roman church excuse me catholic 1102 00:53:48,790 --> 00:53:45,599 run hospitals my first poor 1103 00:53:49,510 --> 00:53:48,800 son uh he was born in a catholic 1104 00:53:53,829 --> 00:53:49,520 hospital 1105 00:53:56,630 --> 00:53:53,839 and my wife went to uh the 1106 00:53:57,910 --> 00:53:56,640 she went to holy family university which 1107 00:54:00,950 --> 00:53:57,920 is affleck 1108 00:54:04,150 --> 00:54:00,960 college that is well respected across 1109 00:54:07,030 --> 00:54:04,160 the country as an incredibly uh 1110 00:54:08,549 --> 00:54:07,040 an incredible educational institution 1111 00:54:10,309 --> 00:54:08,559 it's right up there one of the best 1112 00:54:12,870 --> 00:54:10,319 schools in the country 1113 00:54:14,710 --> 00:54:12,880 and uh yeah my wife uh i don't know she 1114 00:54:17,829 --> 00:54:14,720 graduated with honors i think she had 1115 00:54:19,030 --> 00:54:17,839 almost a 4.0 and she just under a 4.0 1116 00:54:20,549 --> 00:54:19,040 and she was really pissed because 1117 00:54:23,430 --> 00:54:20,559 somebody 1118 00:54:24,069 --> 00:54:23,440 a professor blew her 439 right before he 1119 00:54:25,990 --> 00:54:24,079 graduated 1120 00:54:27,109 --> 00:54:26,000 or something but their catholics are 1121 00:54:29,670 --> 00:54:27,119 known for being 1122 00:54:30,549 --> 00:54:29,680 incredibly good educators and also for 1123 00:54:32,470 --> 00:54:30,559 running 1124 00:54:34,230 --> 00:54:32,480 hospitals and of course missions and 1125 00:54:36,309 --> 00:54:34,240 things you know 1126 00:54:38,390 --> 00:54:36,319 but i think that the catholic church had 1127 00:54:39,270 --> 00:54:38,400 way too much power we see that as 1128 00:54:42,549 --> 00:54:39,280 evidenced by 1129 00:54:44,789 --> 00:54:42,559 some scandals that they've had um 1130 00:54:46,309 --> 00:54:44,799 and they have spent a huge amount of 1131 00:54:48,789 --> 00:54:46,319 money to try to cover 1132 00:54:50,829 --> 00:54:48,799 scandals up and roll on with their 1133 00:54:54,230 --> 00:54:50,839 catholic future 1134 00:54:55,829 --> 00:54:54,240 um i don't know most people that i know 1135 00:54:56,549 --> 00:54:55,839 that grew up catholic are no longer 1136 00:54:57,910 --> 00:54:56,559 catholic 1137 00:54:59,589 --> 00:54:57,920 i don't know how those churches are 1138 00:55:00,390 --> 00:54:59,599 surviving i know many of them are 1139 00:55:03,109 --> 00:55:00,400 closing 1140 00:55:06,230 --> 00:55:03,119 most of the smaller ones when i grew up 1141 00:55:09,750 --> 00:55:06,240 as a child we had 1142 00:55:11,510 --> 00:55:09,760 four or five different great catholic 1143 00:55:13,589 --> 00:55:11,520 schools that were connected there was a 1144 00:55:15,670 --> 00:55:13,599 church and there was a grade school 1145 00:55:17,589 --> 00:55:15,680 and there were four or five of them 1146 00:55:19,030 --> 00:55:17,599 maybe 60 and then just in my 1147 00:55:21,109 --> 00:55:19,040 neighborhood in port richmond 1148 00:55:23,349 --> 00:55:21,119 and later when i was an adult there was 1149 00:55:25,829 --> 00:55:23,359 only one that consolidated all those 1150 00:55:27,750 --> 00:55:25,839 rails down to one school which happened 1151 00:55:30,470 --> 00:55:27,760 to be the one that i went to a child 1152 00:55:31,910 --> 00:55:30,480 that was the biggest one and that was 1153 00:55:35,430 --> 00:55:31,920 called saint adelbert's 1154 00:55:36,470 --> 00:55:35,440 in philadelphia and saint alberts had 1155 00:55:39,829 --> 00:55:36,480 its own 1156 00:55:42,470 --> 00:55:39,839 uh share of the uh 1157 00:55:43,510 --> 00:55:42,480 sort of scandals because one of the pedo 1158 00:55:47,589 --> 00:55:43,520 priests 1159 00:55:50,549 --> 00:55:47,599 church is being taken 1160 00:55:51,510 --> 00:55:50,559 out of priestly service for because of 1161 00:55:55,349 --> 00:55:51,520 allegations 1162 00:55:57,270 --> 00:55:55,359 went to saint alberts or logan was the 1163 00:55:58,950 --> 00:55:57,280 actual monsignor which means the 1164 00:56:00,710 --> 00:55:58,960 the head guy in charge of the whole 1165 00:56:03,430 --> 00:56:00,720 church and school 1166 00:56:04,069 --> 00:56:03,440 he got named the pedo or a possible pedo 1167 00:56:05,910 --> 00:56:04,079 i don't know 1168 00:56:08,150 --> 00:56:05,920 what happened i don't think that he was 1169 00:56:10,230 --> 00:56:08,160 prosecuted most of them aren't 1170 00:56:12,150 --> 00:56:10,240 prosecuted and the other one got 1171 00:56:13,510 --> 00:56:12,160 transferred to another school and then 1172 00:56:17,670 --> 00:56:13,520 he did get prosecuted 1173 00:56:18,549 --> 00:56:17,680 hung jury both times so yeah there's a 1174 00:56:21,190 --> 00:56:18,559 lot of scale 1175 00:56:21,910 --> 00:56:21,200 even being just the church that i grew 1176 00:56:24,630 --> 00:56:21,920 up in 1177 00:56:26,309 --> 00:56:24,640 which is crazy and i hear stories from 1178 00:56:28,710 --> 00:56:26,319 people 1179 00:56:30,950 --> 00:56:28,720 all over the spectrum all over the world 1180 00:56:31,670 --> 00:56:30,960 all over the country that had similar 1181 00:56:34,309 --> 00:56:31,680 kind of uh 1182 00:56:35,589 --> 00:56:34,319 no scandal priests in the church that 1183 00:56:37,349 --> 00:56:35,599 they grew up in 1184 00:56:38,710 --> 00:56:37,359 and that's got to affect the future of 1185 00:56:39,430 --> 00:56:38,720 the catholic church i mean how do you 1186 00:56:42,150 --> 00:56:39,440 trust them 1187 00:56:43,670 --> 00:56:42,160 after that i don't know how anybody 1188 00:56:45,670 --> 00:56:43,680 could trust them after that but i don't 1189 00:56:47,030 --> 00:56:45,680 want to bash anybody that's catholic i 1190 00:56:49,030 --> 00:56:47,040 think 1191 00:56:51,349 --> 00:56:49,040 you know there are benefits to 1192 00:56:54,630 --> 00:56:51,359 everything if you just take the 1193 00:56:55,270 --> 00:56:54,640 morality teachings i suppose and of thy 1194 00:56:57,510 --> 00:56:55,280 neighbor 1195 00:56:59,910 --> 00:56:57,520 and the great stories about jesus and 1196 00:57:02,710 --> 00:56:59,920 how you should live your life 1197 00:57:04,789 --> 00:57:02,720 hey uh sure there's probably a great 1198 00:57:12,150 --> 00:57:04,799 deal of benefit to catholicism 1199 00:57:14,390 --> 00:57:12,160 for me 1200 00:57:16,230 --> 00:57:14,400 yeah man that was the same around here 1201 00:57:16,630 --> 00:57:16,240 now as well the church has lost a ton of 1202 00:57:20,309 --> 00:57:16,640 money 1203 00:57:21,589 --> 00:57:20,319 that they've lost an incredible amount 1204 00:57:24,230 --> 00:57:21,599 of influence 1205 00:57:25,190 --> 00:57:24,240 they had so much more influence over 1206 00:57:28,549 --> 00:57:25,200 neighborhoods 1207 00:57:33,430 --> 00:57:28,559 over people uh 1208 00:57:35,670 --> 00:57:33,440 you know before that scandal hit and now 1209 00:57:36,549 --> 00:57:35,680 it's like decimated them i think a lot 1210 00:57:38,150 --> 00:57:36,559 of people 1211 00:57:39,670 --> 00:57:38,160 that were you know imagine if you were 1212 00:57:41,510 --> 00:57:39,680 on the fence about this whole being 1213 00:57:43,990 --> 00:57:41,520 do i want to keep being catholic or not 1214 00:57:45,750 --> 00:57:44,000 and that stuff hits and you're like 1215 00:57:47,670 --> 00:57:45,760 and then you're hearing that they paid 1216 00:57:49,270 --> 00:57:47,680 out millions and millions and millions 1217 00:57:50,069 --> 00:57:49,280 and millions and millions and millions 1218 00:57:52,069 --> 00:57:50,079 of dollars 1219 00:57:53,990 --> 00:57:52,079 in legal settlements to the victims of 1220 00:57:56,230 --> 00:57:54,000 those some of those scandals 1221 00:57:57,829 --> 00:57:56,240 and money's still being paid out today 1222 00:58:01,030 --> 00:57:57,839 to those victims 1223 00:58:03,589 --> 00:58:01,040 uh and and we teach you that by the way 1224 00:58:04,069 --> 00:58:03,599 the way those payouts usually work is 1225 00:58:06,069 --> 00:58:04,079 that 1226 00:58:09,510 --> 00:58:06,079 the victim has to take the money and 1227 00:58:11,910 --> 00:58:09,520 then sign an nda 1228 00:58:13,430 --> 00:58:11,920 which is like a non-disclosure agreement 1229 00:58:17,190 --> 00:58:13,440 so here take this with me 1230 00:58:20,710 --> 00:58:17,200 and then don't tell anybody about father 1231 00:58:21,990 --> 00:58:20,720 you know father so and so taking in the 1232 00:58:25,109 --> 00:58:22,000 rectory and you know 1233 00:58:27,109 --> 00:58:25,119 doing whatever he did to you and uh 1234 00:58:29,270 --> 00:58:27,119 i i don't understand that how any of 1235 00:58:30,950 --> 00:58:29,280 this how any of that stuff that happened 1236 00:58:33,589 --> 00:58:30,960 with the catholic church is legal 1237 00:58:35,109 --> 00:58:33,599 right you just can pay off a victim and 1238 00:58:35,990 --> 00:58:35,119 then you don't have to face criminal 1239 00:58:39,270 --> 00:58:36,000 charges for those 1240 00:58:41,430 --> 00:58:39,280 acts and they never you know 1241 00:58:43,589 --> 00:58:41,440 up until recently they did not report 1242 00:58:46,309 --> 00:58:43,599 those things to the police which is 1243 00:58:46,630 --> 00:58:46,319 normal that's what you're supposed to do 1244 00:58:50,390 --> 00:58:46,640 i 1245 00:58:54,069 --> 00:58:50,400 whole 1246 00:58:56,230 --> 00:58:54,079 because it's like these are the moral 1247 00:58:57,910 --> 00:58:56,240 and you know these are the godly and 1248 00:58:59,510 --> 00:58:57,920 moral authorities 1249 00:59:01,270 --> 00:58:59,520 right and they're doing things that are 1250 00:59:03,750 --> 00:59:01,280 so dishonest uh 1251 00:59:05,349 --> 00:59:03,760 even just taking into account the way 1252 00:59:06,230 --> 00:59:05,359 they try to cover it all up and pay 1253 00:59:09,430 --> 00:59:06,240 people off 1254 00:59:11,990 --> 00:59:09,440 is incredibly dishonest and again 1255 00:59:14,069 --> 00:59:12,000 the moral authority you know so the 1256 00:59:17,109 --> 00:59:14,079 hypocrisy of it has affected 1257 00:59:19,349 --> 00:59:17,119 many many catholics who become like me 1258 00:59:21,190 --> 00:59:19,359 recovering catholics but tonight's 1259 00:59:23,510 --> 00:59:21,200 subject was really 1260 00:59:25,109 --> 00:59:23,520 out of mind says my twins were born in a 1261 00:59:26,710 --> 00:59:25,119 catholic hospital one of them had a real 1262 00:59:28,069 --> 00:59:26,720 rough start the nuns wanted me to give 1263 00:59:30,150 --> 00:59:28,079 her last rates i had 1264 00:59:32,390 --> 00:59:30,160 both moved to a different hospital how 1265 00:59:34,390 --> 00:59:32,400 horrible them to assume yeah 1266 00:59:35,910 --> 00:59:34,400 i don't know i don't mind though lazarus 1267 00:59:37,270 --> 00:59:35,920 does not always 1268 00:59:38,950 --> 00:59:37,280 mean that they think that person's going 1269 00:59:39,510 --> 00:59:38,960 to die they just want to cover their 1270 00:59:43,109 --> 00:59:39,520 bases 1271 00:59:48,230 --> 00:59:44,870 it's disgusting they covered it up 1272 00:59:52,390 --> 00:59:49,990 and sort of mitchell says you can't 1273 00:59:54,710 --> 00:59:52,400 trust them yeah 1274 00:59:56,549 --> 00:59:54,720 i somehow forgave the catholic church 1275 01:00:00,549 --> 00:59:56,559 for all that stuff and let my 1276 01:00:02,710 --> 01:00:00,559 poor son go to uh yes was like 1277 01:00:03,750 --> 01:00:02,720 the pre-kindergarten or kindergarten at 1278 01:00:09,030 --> 01:00:03,760 a catholic school 1279 01:00:12,549 --> 01:00:11,109 they made me very angry because my son 1280 01:00:13,829 --> 01:00:12,559 has special needs they throw me out in 1281 01:00:16,309 --> 01:00:13,839 the middle of the year knowing that we 1282 01:00:19,190 --> 01:00:16,319 couldn't get placement that would lose 1283 01:00:19,990 --> 01:00:19,200 every school year right and he had a 1284 01:00:21,829 --> 01:00:20,000 one-on-one 1285 01:00:24,150 --> 01:00:21,839 how difficult could he be there was a 1286 01:00:24,630 --> 01:00:24,160 person from the state who sat next to my 1287 01:00:27,589 --> 01:00:24,640 son 1288 01:00:29,829 --> 01:00:27,599 in this catholic kindergarten they still 1289 01:00:32,069 --> 01:00:29,839 threw them out 1290 01:00:34,390 --> 01:00:32,079 and this was right after the pope had 1291 01:00:37,030 --> 01:00:34,400 given a speech about 1292 01:00:38,630 --> 01:00:37,040 being inclusive of autistic children and 1293 01:00:41,670 --> 01:00:38,640 autistic 1294 01:00:43,510 --> 01:00:41,680 families you know because 1295 01:00:45,109 --> 01:00:43,520 it's not the autistic child's fault that 1296 01:00:47,430 --> 01:00:45,119 they were born that way 1297 01:00:48,950 --> 01:00:47,440 we have to include them they're all we 1298 01:00:52,069 --> 01:00:48,960 are all god's children 1299 01:00:54,150 --> 01:00:52,079 right and right after that the principal 1300 01:00:55,990 --> 01:00:54,160 throws my son out uh a principal who 1301 01:00:58,870 --> 01:00:56,000 wasn't even at the school for the entire 1302 01:01:01,829 --> 01:00:58,880 six months so like a vice principal at 1303 01:01:04,950 --> 01:01:01,839 the pool decided to throw my son out of 1304 01:01:07,349 --> 01:01:04,960 it's kindergarten and i get it my son's 1305 01:01:08,789 --> 01:01:07,359 autistic he was somewhat disruptive 1306 01:01:10,710 --> 01:01:08,799 uh you know he would get up he wouldn't 1307 01:01:12,789 --> 01:01:10,720 just sit there like the wrong 1308 01:01:14,630 --> 01:01:12,799 kids and the one with the redirect them 1309 01:01:17,430 --> 01:01:14,640 and keep putting them back in the chair 1310 01:01:18,630 --> 01:01:17,440 and yeah he was not easy to deal with 1311 01:01:20,630 --> 01:01:18,640 but 1312 01:01:22,710 --> 01:01:20,640 where's your christ-like compassion for 1313 01:01:25,030 --> 01:01:22,720 my autistic son 1314 01:01:26,230 --> 01:01:25,040 no at that school had gotten a ten 1315 01:01:28,630 --> 01:01:26,240 thousand dollar grant 1316 01:01:30,309 --> 01:01:28,640 to help their special needs programs 1317 01:01:31,750 --> 01:01:30,319 that's one of the reasons we decided to 1318 01:01:33,270 --> 01:01:31,760 send our son there well they just got 1319 01:01:35,430 --> 01:01:33,280 ten thousand dollars to help with their 1320 01:01:36,309 --> 01:01:35,440 special needs programs for special needs 1321 01:01:37,750 --> 01:01:36,319 children 1322 01:01:44,069 --> 01:01:37,760 and then they throw our son out of the 1323 01:01:47,510 --> 01:01:45,510 if you notice most every church has 1324 01:01:48,309 --> 01:01:47,520 impeccable stock like flawless that 1325 01:01:50,870 --> 01:01:48,319 costs money 1326 01:01:53,829 --> 01:01:50,880 they are non-profit how do they afford 1327 01:01:56,950 --> 01:01:53,839 such work you got to be in the back room 1328 01:02:00,069 --> 01:01:56,960 counting the cash at an average uh 1329 01:02:00,630 --> 01:02:00,079 sunday i i was an altar boy so i got to 1330 01:02:02,950 --> 01:02:00,640 see 1331 01:02:05,750 --> 01:02:02,960 them counting the money sometimes like 1332 01:02:06,950 --> 01:02:05,760 if the late mass which was like 11 30 or 1333 01:02:09,190 --> 01:02:06,960 12 1334 01:02:12,150 --> 01:02:09,200 right on a sunday there would be mobile 1335 01:02:13,990 --> 01:02:12,160 masses 6 a.m 7 a.m 8 00 am 9 00 am 10 1336 01:02:15,190 --> 01:02:14,000 a.m i mean it was a racket you'd fill 1337 01:02:17,029 --> 01:02:15,200 that church up everybody 1338 01:02:18,470 --> 01:02:17,039 throwing money in those baskets and it 1339 01:02:19,750 --> 01:02:18,480 would all go into the back where the 1340 01:02:23,270 --> 01:02:19,760 priests were 1341 01:02:24,470 --> 01:02:23,280 and so an altar boy i got to see them 1342 01:02:28,309 --> 01:02:24,480 counting this money 1343 01:02:30,870 --> 01:02:28,319 and it was bags full 1344 01:02:31,349 --> 01:02:30,880 like trash bags full of cash and i mean 1345 01:02:34,150 --> 01:02:31,359 if 1346 01:02:35,990 --> 01:02:34,160 it was sort of organized and wrapped and 1347 01:02:36,950 --> 01:02:36,000 stuff and rappers they would wrap the 1348 01:02:39,109 --> 01:02:36,960 ones the fives 1349 01:02:39,990 --> 01:02:39,119 tens and they was throwing on a trash 1350 01:02:43,109 --> 01:02:40,000 bag 1351 01:02:44,789 --> 01:02:43,119 i couldn't believe it and uh yeah 1352 01:02:46,710 --> 01:02:44,799 so they just can't collect all this 1353 01:02:48,390 --> 01:02:46,720 money 1354 01:02:50,789 --> 01:02:48,400 and they don't have to pay taxes on any 1355 01:02:51,270 --> 01:02:50,799 of it we gotta figure i can figure this 1356 01:02:54,309 --> 01:02:51,280 out 1357 01:02:55,990 --> 01:02:54,319 how i was able to do that 1358 01:02:57,270 --> 01:02:56,000 steve brown and we had a pedo teacher in 1359 01:02:58,950 --> 01:02:57,280 secondary school and he used to always 1360 01:03:01,029 --> 01:02:58,960 massage my shoulders and they never knew 1361 01:03:03,349 --> 01:03:01,039 that he was really doing it i found out 1362 01:03:04,870 --> 01:03:03,359 he guessed he gassed himself to death in 1363 01:03:07,430 --> 01:03:04,880 his car a year after i left 1364 01:03:08,630 --> 01:03:07,440 wow yeah other guys are very troubled 1365 01:03:11,430 --> 01:03:08,640 and yeah they would be 1366 01:03:13,190 --> 01:03:11,440 it would be too touchy one that i was 1367 01:03:15,990 --> 01:03:13,200 warned about was too touchy 1368 01:03:18,069 --> 01:03:16,000 and my father sort of warned him like my 1369 01:03:20,789 --> 01:03:18,079 son has to serve mess with you 1370 01:03:21,910 --> 01:03:20,799 don't don't touch him or something like 1371 01:03:26,230 --> 01:03:21,920 that 1372 01:03:27,349 --> 01:03:26,240 so sure now is all about making some fat 1373 01:03:30,470 --> 01:03:27,359 pen priest rich i 1374 01:03:32,549 --> 01:03:30,480 believe any church actually forgot to be 1375 01:03:34,470 --> 01:03:32,559 honest well 1376 01:03:36,710 --> 01:03:34,480 yeah maybe you're you're as cynical as i 1377 01:03:38,230 --> 01:03:36,720 once was trying to come back around that 1378 01:03:41,270 --> 01:03:38,240 you know there's some benefit to 1379 01:03:43,750 --> 01:03:41,280 christianity and uh 1380 01:03:45,190 --> 01:03:43,760 you can't paint with such a broad brush 1381 01:03:46,789 --> 01:03:45,200 you really have to 1382 01:03:51,510 --> 01:03:46,799 take i don't know i just want to take 1383 01:04:00,789 --> 01:03:53,349 that was an epic watch stephen she did 1384 01:04:10,789 --> 01:04:03,910 oh you're talking about uh sinead 1385 01:04:18,789 --> 01:04:11,990 yeah i remember that there was a big 1386 01:04:22,309 --> 01:04:20,390 never the pleasure to see how much they 1387 01:04:24,829 --> 01:04:22,319 actually collect but they give you 1388 01:04:26,470 --> 01:04:24,839 the lies if you don't toss something in 1389 01:04:29,589 --> 01:04:26,480 yeah 1390 01:04:30,309 --> 01:04:29,599 jesus loves you sex is design jesus 1391 01:04:33,109 --> 01:04:30,319 loves you 1392 01:04:33,670 --> 01:04:33,119 but he always needs money right jesus 1393 01:04:36,630 --> 01:04:33,680 loves you 1394 01:04:38,309 --> 01:04:36,640 such as design but he always needs money 1395 01:04:39,029 --> 01:04:38,319 kind of like me i always need money 1396 01:04:42,230 --> 01:04:39,039 right 1397 01:04:42,950 --> 01:04:42,240 so i'm gonna place the collection plate 1398 01:04:44,630 --> 01:04:42,960 around 1399 01:04:47,270 --> 01:04:44,640 and you people can all just give me 1400 01:04:50,230 --> 01:04:47,280 money we could call this church 1401 01:04:51,910 --> 01:04:50,240 right i'll get a i'll get a non-profit 1402 01:04:52,950 --> 01:04:51,920 status going so i don't have to pay 1403 01:04:54,950 --> 01:04:52,960 taxes 1404 01:04:56,150 --> 01:04:54,960 every once in a while i'll throw in some 1405 01:05:03,270 --> 01:04:56,160 wisdom 1406 01:05:07,430 --> 01:05:06,069 people paid for with cash my father did 1407 01:05:09,109 --> 01:05:07,440 yeah that's another scam 1408 01:05:11,190 --> 01:05:09,119 while they were selling people tokens to 1409 01:05:12,710 --> 01:05:11,200 heaven you too can go to heaven you just 1410 01:05:16,150 --> 01:05:12,720 gotta buy this 1411 01:05:18,710 --> 01:05:16,160 pass from the pope popes that they sold 1412 01:05:29,829 --> 01:05:18,720 passes to heaven to people for a certain 1413 01:05:32,789 --> 01:05:31,270 she was practically homeless and living 1414 01:05:34,390 --> 01:05:32,799 in some kind of halfway drug house here 1415 01:05:35,990 --> 01:05:34,400 in the states not sure if that's still 1416 01:05:37,510 --> 01:05:36,000 the case for her poor dear 1417 01:05:38,950 --> 01:05:37,520 yeah i don't know i heard that she was 1418 01:05:41,349 --> 01:05:38,960 on some kind of problems but i didn't 1419 01:05:46,549 --> 01:05:41,359 really keep up or follow if she's okay 1420 01:05:50,069 --> 01:05:49,270 well friends uh i mentioned that we have 1421 01:05:51,589 --> 01:05:50,079 i have a great 1422 01:05:53,190 --> 01:05:51,599 little things that i gotta do later 1423 01:05:56,470 --> 01:05:53,200 today so 1424 01:05:57,190 --> 01:05:56,480 i think we are gonna uh we are gonna 1425 01:06:00,150 --> 01:05:57,200 wrap things 1426 01:06:01,510 --> 01:06:00,160 here for today uh one of the reasons i 1427 01:06:03,670 --> 01:06:01,520 wanted to cover this subject with 1428 01:06:05,349 --> 01:06:03,680 incorruptibility is because i'm going to 1429 01:06:07,990 --> 01:06:05,359 be revisiting some 1430 01:06:09,750 --> 01:06:08,000 christian and catholic mysteries one of 1431 01:06:12,390 --> 01:06:09,760 them is padre pio 1432 01:06:13,750 --> 01:06:12,400 he's one of the people that is to have a 1433 01:06:17,109 --> 01:06:13,760 an interruptible body 1434 01:06:19,670 --> 01:06:17,119 his looks real though and uh some many 1435 01:06:21,589 --> 01:06:19,680 have told me that his is a genuine case 1436 01:06:24,549 --> 01:06:21,599 of incorruptibility where they do not 1437 01:06:27,270 --> 01:06:24,559 use wax masks they kind of help his body 1438 01:06:31,029 --> 01:06:27,280 is just perfectly preserved that way 1439 01:06:33,829 --> 01:06:31,039 padre pio also has stigma which is 1440 01:06:34,230 --> 01:06:33,839 for those that don't know a phenomenon 1441 01:06:37,990 --> 01:06:34,240 where 1442 01:06:39,430 --> 01:06:38,000 a holy person would be gifted i don't 1443 01:06:40,470 --> 01:06:39,440 know how you could call this a gift but 1444 01:06:43,589 --> 01:06:40,480 they call it being 1445 01:06:44,230 --> 01:06:43,599 gifted with the crucifixion wounds of 1446 01:06:48,549 --> 01:06:44,240 christ 1447 01:06:51,510 --> 01:06:48,559 on their hands and uh you know 1448 01:06:53,670 --> 01:06:51,520 feet and these stigmata wounds would 1449 01:06:54,789 --> 01:06:53,680 bleed at various times and in padre 1450 01:06:57,829 --> 01:06:54,799 peter's case 1451 01:06:59,430 --> 01:06:57,839 he could perform miracles uh heal the 1452 01:07:02,309 --> 01:06:59,440 sick even terminally ill 1453 01:07:03,349 --> 01:07:02,319 people uh so i will sort i wanted to 1454 01:07:04,950 --> 01:07:03,359 sort of do this show 1455 01:07:06,470 --> 01:07:04,960 just to sort of explain this 1456 01:07:09,510 --> 01:07:06,480 incorruptibility 1457 01:07:10,870 --> 01:07:09,520 uh principle of catholicism before we 1458 01:07:12,829 --> 01:07:10,880 get to the next show 1459 01:07:14,789 --> 01:07:12,839 i think we'll do that next which is 1460 01:07:17,270 --> 01:07:14,799 padre we're going to do a show 1461 01:07:17,990 --> 01:07:17,280 all about this po because it is an 1462 01:07:24,950 --> 01:07:18,000 incredible 1463 01:07:29,910 --> 01:07:27,990 and well friends it's been a long day 1464 01:07:32,470 --> 01:07:29,920 it's going to be a long night for me but 1465 01:07:35,109 --> 01:07:32,480 i will be back tomorrow night 1466 01:07:37,109 --> 01:07:35,119 i hope no one minds that we try to do an 1467 01:07:39,430 --> 01:07:37,119 earlier time tonight 1468 01:07:40,150 --> 01:07:39,440 uh things happen i'm just gonna have to 1469 01:07:42,630 --> 01:07:40,160 adjust i 1470 01:07:43,589 --> 01:07:42,640 wanted to make sure that i did come here 1471 01:07:47,510 --> 01:07:43,599 and give this 1472 01:07:51,270 --> 01:07:49,349 i thank you all for joining us and 1473 01:07:53,990 --> 01:07:51,280 invite you back tomorrow night where i 1474 01:07:57,589 --> 01:07:54,000 believe we're going to be discussing the 1475 01:07:59,829 --> 01:07:57,599 bizarre case of padre pio 1476 01:08:01,349 --> 01:07:59,839 until next time friends my name is 1477 01:08:14,670 --> 01:08:01,359 stephen kimbian 1478 01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:22,829 [Music] 1479 01:08:22,839 --> 01:08:28,950 do 1480 01:09:19,929 --> 01:08:37,750 [Music] 1481 01:09:44,830 --> 01:09:19,939 [Applause] 1482 01:09:46,900 --> 01:09:44,840 [Music] 1483 01:10:15,090 --> 01:09:46,910 [Applause] 1484 01:10:16,110 --> 01:10:15,100 [Music]